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List of greatest UR forwards

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Let's try to generate the list of greatest UR forwards, either at the 3 spot or 4 spot. This list could overlap some of the other lists we have discussed. It should include unsung heroes as well.
The three greatest that come to mind:

Johnny Newman, all time leading scorer for the Spiders and all time great, 16-year NBA player.
Justin Harper, another all time great, but not as dominant as Newman.
Peter Woolfolk, an all time great, who was integral to our Sweet 16 run in '88. Woolfolk was unstoppable.

Any other comes to mind?
John Newman
Justin Harper
Peter Woolfolk
John Davis
Michael Perry
Terry Connoly
Kenny Wood
Jarod Stevenson
Greg Stevenson
Scott Stapleton
Aron Stewart
Bob McCurdy
Ryan Butler
Tony Dobbins
Mike Skrocki
Terry Allen
Nathan Cayo
Kinte Smith
TK Cline
Grant Golden
Eric Poole
 
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I would say Ryan Butler is a great. He was a great role player who came into his own. I think he was regarded as a "glue" guy by Coach Mooney.
 
Wood Hall said:
Aron Stewart. A man playing against boys in 1972-73 and 1973-74.

Can't imagine anyone being better than Bob McCurdy in 1974-75, either.
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Thank you my fellow 76er, you beat me to it. Shame 3pt line was not around for these guys.
Also a few years later would add John Schweitz.
 
No. Don't want to criticize any players, but he's not one of our greatest, which is what the thread says. Never averaged more than 5 ppg and was a career 25% shooter from 3 and under 50% from the FT line.
 
I would call TJ a forward. Even Grant is listed as a forward now.
 
Kinte Smith has 3 good years for us after transferring from GW. I would also include Nate.
 
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Trey was one of the bigger disappointments in recent memory (strictly speaking on the court, of course). He was pretty well-hyped, had the great bloodlines and incredible high school career, and then it just never happened for him here. I always assumed he was able to body guys up in high school and hide his lack of a shot, but he couldn't get away with it at D1.
 
Gallipoli said:
Let's try to generate the list of greatest UR forwards, either at the 3 spot or 4 spot. This list could overlap some of the other lists we have discussed. It should include unsung heroes as well.
The three greatest that come to mind:

Johnny Newman, all time leading scorer for the Spiders and all time great, 16-year NBA player.
Justin Harper, another all time great, but not as dominant as Newman.
Peter Woolfolk, an all time great, who was integral to our Sweet 16 run in '88. Woolfolk was unstoppable.

Any other comes to mind?
John Newman
Justin Harper
Peter Woolfolk
John Davis
Michael Perry
Terry Connoly
Kenny Wood
Jarod Stevenson
Greg Stevenson
Scott Stapleton
Aron Stewart
Bob McCurdy
Ryan Butler
Tony Dobbins
Mike Skrocki
Terry Allen
Nathan Cayo
Kinte Smith
TK Cline
Grant Golden
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This list shows clearly Mooney's achillies heal, recruiting the forward position. Of this list of names, just really 2 great all time forwards that were Mooney guys, Harper and Terry Allen. In 14 years. TJ and Grant are centers, I don't care what the "media guide" says on them, I was born, just not yesterday. Cayo and Butler were good solid starters on their teams, lets not give everyone a trophy here. Trey Davis, come on now, some of you are going to have your voting privileges revoked here.
 
97spiderfan said:
This list shows clearly Mooney's achillies heal, recruiting the forward position. Of this list of names, just really 2 great all time forwards that were Mooney guys, Harper and Terry Allen. In 14 years...
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This is an interesting observation. I would say his strength has been recruiting under recruited guards, both point guards and shooting guards. He has consistently had the best guards in UR history.
 
Gallipoli said:
This is an interesting observation. I would say his strength has been recruiting under recruited guards, both point guards and shooting guards. He has consistently had the best guards in UR history.
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Yep, Mooney has been an excellent recruiter and development of guards. Almost has always had a good center on the roster, with the possible exception of the ANO era, who never really fully developed. Forward, wing players though he has had way more many misses than hits.

One of the reasons, I am excited about Burton. He checks a box, Mooney has traditionally had a really difficult time checking.
 
Gallipoli said:
This is an interesting observation. I would say his strength has been recruiting under recruited guards, both point guards and shooting guards. He has consistently had the best guards in UR history.
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Yes, we have had very good guards, not sure you could say he recruited better guards than Tarrant though?
And, undersized guards are much easier to get, that is for sure. Gilyard, Kevin Anderson did not have any p6 offers, or possibly even A10 due to size. Tarrant had to beat out ACC for Blair, and even re-recruit Kenny Atkinson from P6 transfer threat.
Mooney seems to be turning the corner on recruiting, but will be sold if he can get some stud top 150 types in the 2021 class. That is the key to being a once/twice every 10 years NCAA program to being an Xavier / Dayton / Gonzaga / St. Mary's / Wichita / VCU type of program I aspire us to be.
 
Gallipoli said:
This is an interesting observation. I would say his strength has been recruiting under recruited guards, both point guards and shooting guards. He has consistently had the best guards in UR history.
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Perhaps because we’ve had no good forwards...

kidding, but it may be part of the reason.
 
Gallipoli said:
I would say Ryan Butler is a great. He was a great role player who came into his own. I think he was regarded as a "glue" guy by Coach Mooney.
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Ryan, is that you? I think we are throwing the word “great” around too often on this board. I’ve also seen Ryan’s name come up a bunch of times on people’s “best of” lists. I’m not trying to be mean, but we are talking about a guy who never even averaged 9 points a game, and was labeled as an amazing 3 point shooter, but never averaged 40% from 3. With all due respect, he does not belong on this list.
 
PASpider said:
Ryan, is that you? I think we are throwing the word “great” around too often on this board. I’ve also seen Ryan’s name come up a bunch of times on people’s “best of” lists. I’m not trying to be mean, but we are talking about a guy who never even averaged 9 points a game, and was labeled as an amazing 3 point shooter, but never averaged 40% from 3. With all due respect, he does not belong on this list.
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Now, if we had a greatest list of basketball alum who get inebriated at games and get into shouting matches with opposing fans, officials, and fans who do not sufficiently suck-up to the greatness of Mooney, Ryan Butler would be on that list.
 
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