Kevin Johnson Redshirt?
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Why not?
He was going to redshirt last season until all our QB injuries happened and have 3 years of eligibility left (wasting one watching Lauletta finish his senior year and having 2 to play). Now instead of being a RsSo he's technically a junior with two years of eligibility left (using one to watch Lauletta this year). If Lauletta is going to be the guy, I think it would would be wise to redshirt KJ
Jeff Durden's historical offensive playbook fits the style of play of KJ v KL.Would not be surprised if KJ gets the starting nod.Its a great dilemma for UR to have.Blending those differing QB types of styles of play into a hybrid 2017 offensive playbook will be a challenge and opportunity for sure. Mancuso and Clise ain't nothing to sneeze at either as seen in the Spring game.Mancuso's style of QB play also fits Durden's historical playbook.
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I don't disagree with anything you said there. From what I've seen and heard, I am expecting KJ to see a lot of reps this fall.
Yes he is, Mo. Moreover, nothing wrong about having more than one alternative or backup; this applies to both football and other sports including basketball.
I would prefer a redshirt for KJ. This should be Kyle's team. I know the staff want to run more of a spread offense, but KL is an exceptional QB. Durden is a smart guy. He can tweak his offense to fit Kyle this year. Also for the future, would like to have KJ for 2 full years.
My point is that he's not being converted to running back or wide receiver or anything else being suggested.
I understood your point. Those of us who have witnessed his arm strength, accuracy, and leadership realize that Kevin is a really good quarterback.
I think it makes much more sense for KJ to redshirt. You've got a senior All-Conference QB in Lauletta. No doubt KJ fits the new system better, but any OC worth his salt can take a QB as talented as Kyle and tweak the offense to take advantage of Kyle's strengths. As Spider B said, then we've got KJ for two more seasons. Barring injury, having these 2 exceptional QB's piloting the ship for the next 3 years is a luxury few FCS programs ever have. Maybe I'm just being selfish, but I'd love to have KJ through the 2019 season. Are we going to really burn a season this year with him playing sparingly? Or alternately sit an all-conference QB his senior year to play a guy who fits the system better? Those are the only alternatives I see if KJ doesn't redshirt.
Choosing to redshirt Kevin Johnson last season may have appeared at first to be a good decision. However, when Broadus was kicked off the team, a big part of Johnson's career was sacrificed for the good of the team. His lack of development during the season hurt both him and the team during the playoffs. IMHO, the team would be better served by starting the season with Johnson as an active player, who subs for Lauletta. In the event Lauletta gets hurt, Johnson must be ready to play. Johnson lost 2 seasons of eligibility trying to redshirt. IMHO, it should not be a third.
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Think KJ plays. Mancuso fits the system too and could step up after KJ's senior year.
So the All Conference QB is put out to pasture his senior year? Man, that is cold! I don't see that happening even if KJ is a better fit for the system. Are we going with 2 QB's splitting time? Show me where that has worked out well.
If he's not going to start, why not let Lauletta graduate and transfer? Most of the time the 5th year seniors only take one class their last fall. If this is the plan, he could take his last class in Summer School and transfer elsewhere with his UR degree in hand. No, I think the plan is for Lauletta to start. I guess we'll see in 73 days.
If I were running the team, I'd go 2 out of every 3 series for Lauletta and let it play out from there.
You're right that sharing of the quarterback role hasn't worked out well in many places. That said, this is pretty unique. We may have 2 of the top 5 QB in all of FCS.
This reminds me of the Michael Strauss- Michael Rocco situation. It was Strauss' team, but Rocco was able to fill in when Strauss got hurt. This is Lauletta's team. But Johnson is too good to leave on the sidelines.
If Kyle comes back close to 100% it's his team and KKJ wouldn't want it any other way. I would try to play KJ a couple of series i the first half of each game and then let the circumstances dictate how much he played in the second half It would hurt Kyle production numbers (possibly) but I don't believe he would mind if it helped the team
Agree with 32. Lauletta starts, KJ plays but I wouldn't have a set rotation per series.
KJ is good but wouldn't put him in top 5 of FCS. I expect them to sling it around more than they did in spring which bodes well for Lauletta.
KJ is good but wouldn't put him in top 5 of FCS. I expect them to sling it around more than they did in spring which bodes well for Lauletta.
Lauletta has to be the guy hands down. Rotating QB's never works and we don't want to make this too complicated. Lauletta is the starter and plays all of the snaps. No rotating in Johnson. The only way that Kevin Johnson should play is if Lauletta is injured or if Lauletta isn't playing well, then throw Johnson in there. It's a nice luxury to have.
I agree with your comparison but the 2 quarterbacks we have now are both better players than Strauss and Rocco. Strauss put up some unbelievable numbers but didn't have the leadership and intangibles of 5 and 7.
That's fair. That said, i don't think it's very arguable to say that we have 2 of top 3 quarterbacks in the CAA. Schor of JMU is the other. Zack B of Villanova would probably like to be in that conversation but he looked pretty incompetent in the games that i saw him, including ours.
VT, I agree. But what else am I missing? If Lauletta is the guy, and I think he should be, why wouldn't you want to redshirt KJ and have him for 2 more years? Assuming KJ is ok with redshirting, why would you want him to play even 20-25% of the plays if you could redshirt him and have him through the 2019 season. If Lauletta goes down, KJ can decide on burning his redshirt again like he did last year. If not, we're in great shape at the most important position on the field for 2 more years.
I will never understand forcing ourselves to get Mike Rocco reps as a "running QB" when he was not a running QB and Broadus was clearly the superior runner. I can recall it taking us out of rhythm and costing us a few first downs, particularly against UNH. Strauss was a great QB and there was a clear drop off when he got injured. I definitely feel more comfortable with KJ than I was with Mike Rocco under center.
Naw, Wolf I wasn't saying that. KL starts for sure, but believe KJ will see some developmental playing time. Could be the new Broadus or Rocco when inside the 10. Hopefully with better results.
RH must be happy with our stable of QBs because so far not offering much for 2018.
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Not an unique problem, and one coaches have to face occasionally, but it's a nice
problem to have.
The coaches probably already know what direction they are going to take.
problem to have.
The coaches probably already know what direction they are going to take.
Naw, Wolf I wasn't saying that. KL starts for sure, but believe KJ will see some developmental playing time. Could be the new Broadus or Rocco when inside the 10. Hopefully with better results.
RH must be happy with our stable of QBs because so far not offering much for 2018.
2018 QB status:
1.KJ-Sr.
2.Mancuso-RSo
3.Tre Story(incoming frosh.Sit out 2017)-RFr
I agree with everyone here that Johnson has a lot of talent, but what are you basing your "2 out of the top 5 QB in all of FCS" comment on? That's a pretty bold statement about a kid who has played 3 games.
Probably an overly aggressive statement on my part. That said, I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility if he had a full season to prove it.
Touche.
To be fair, I did base my comments on real, college football game play and not 10 second twitter videos of workouts in a mostly empty gym with cones as defenders.
Nevertheless, Mo, your BPO.Touche.
To be fair, I did base my comments on real, college football game play and not 10 second twitter videos of workouts in a mostly empty gym with cones as defenders.
BPO = Biased Personal Opinion
I thought Kevin Johnson played some in the SHSU game, thus forfeiting his opportunity for a red shirt this year.. is that correct?
The red shirt dance makes it pretty clear. I am glad to hear it. Although I would still rate him in the top 5 of all 2017 FCS quarterbacks.
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