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Kellan Grady and Jon Axel Gudmundsson Declare for Draft

Why do you think they are just average college players? Do you really think there are just as many college players who are better than them than worse than them? Really?

Gudmundsson was A-10 POY and Grady also made 1st team all A-10. Seems awfully ridiculous to call them average college players.

I agree. It's kind of like calling the A-10 Rookie of the Year mediocre.
 
The article was at least a week old, Guy said that he figured his chances of being drafted in the first two rounds were not great, plus he is a pretty humble guy. Perhaps his stock will go up after the combine.

I have not seen any mock drafts that have him going in the first 50 picks, and if a player isn't drafted in the first two rounds, their chances of sticking are not good. Look at Justin Harper as an example.

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I'll be honest, I didn't really view any of UVA's main group as sure-fire NBA guys. A little surprised that Jerome seems to be a consensus first-round pick, though he is a very good college player. He just doesn't strike me as someone whose game translates to the NBA, but here's hoping it does.
 
He just doesn't strike me as someone whose game translates to the NBA, but here's hoping it does.


Several write-ups on Jerome likened him to a Kirk Hinrich type of player. Not flashy, but very solid, and could be a 15 year NBA career starter. I have seen his name in mock drafts somewhere around #25.

Hunter has been slated as #5 or #6 overall in a couple of different mock drafts.


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The article was at least a week old, Guy said that he figured his chances of being drafted in the first two rounds were not great, plus he is a pretty humble guy. Perhaps his stock will go up after the combine.

I have not seen any mock drafts that have him going in the first 50 picks, and if a player isn't drafted in the first two rounds, their chances of sticking are not good. Look at Justin Harper as an example.

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I pretty much agree with you here, but there is a difference in saying you might not get drafted and saying you don't like your chances of playing in the NBA. Every year guys that do not get drafted make NBA rosters. If you go undrafted and show up at Summer League or training camp with the mindset that you don't like your chances, you are pretty much already defeated.
 
My point here is that undrafted players are long shots to make the NBA. Vast majority of undrafteds and many who are drafted don't stick with a team.


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Why do you think they are just average college players? Do you really think there are just as many college players who are better than them than worse than them? Really?

Gudmundsson was A-10 POY and Grady also made 1st team all A-10. Seems awfully ridiculous to call them average college players.
Because they are average as compared to most guys in the draft. Simple as that. Yes, there are dozens better that aren't going draft. Yes, absolutely and I'm confident it that. They have no business even thinking about being second rounders. Neither of them is going to be. Look at the multitude of guys looking to be in the second round and tell me how they are better? There is absolutely NO way that either of them will go in the second round this year. Zero chance. Argue more if you'd like. It's your way...
 
Who said Guy didn't think his chances were good? He announced yesterday he was keeping his name in the draft. Would you also call him average? So, was TJ just an "average college player"? How about KA?
Guy can make it in the draft. TJ and KA never had a chance. He might or might not be ready now, but he'll most definitely play in the dance. He's beyond average. To mention TJ and KA in the same sentence is kind of ridiculous. I might be flamed, but that's the way it is. Neither of those two have scratched or will scratch. Great CBB players on the A10 level, but not close.
 
Because they are average as compared to most guys in the draft. Simple as that. Yes, there are dozens better that aren't going draft. Yes, absolutely and I'm confident it that. They have no business even thinking about being second rounders. Neither of them is going to be. Look at the multitude of guys looking to be in the second round and tell me how they are better? There is absolutely NO way that either of them will go in the second round this year. Zero chance. Argue more if you'd like. It's your way...

Not trying to argue. I even mentioned why not get their name out there and get evaluations whether they get drafted or not. I never said they would get drafted, and that has never been my point. I simply responded to the post that said they are average college players. That is all. They are clearly not just average college players.

The original post I replied to wasn't average college players specifically related to the NBA draft. He said they were average college players. I disagreed. You then said they were average either way. Yet, now, you, like the other poster, are changing things and saying it was in relation to draft guys.
 
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Not trying to argue. I even mentioned why not get their name out there and get evaluations whether they get drafted or not. I never said they would get drafted, and that has never been my point. I simply responded to the post that said they are average college players. That is all. They are clearly not just average college players.

The original post I replied to wasn't average college players specifically related to the NBA draft. He said they were average college players. I disagreed. You then said they were average either way. Yet, now, you, like the other poster, are changing things and saying it was in relation to draft guys.
No one would argue that they are not above average college players. I'd say you were looking for something to pick on by saying that he thought they weren't. We all know they are. Why argue that point when it's not worth going after other than to get some screen time?
 
This time last year Grady was all over the mock 2019 draft boards. A lot can change in a year now he's off them. Big part of that was probably his injury. I'm not a big nba guy but I kind of like him as a prospect. Maybe this time next year he does the full 360 and he's back on a lot of boards. Good luck to him and shout out to a West Roxbury kid.
 
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Grady has NBA potential in my opinion. Not this year, but if he stays for 2 more years in college and produces.
Yep for sure. He needs two more years so he can have a dominating Sr season to get in the dance. He can definitely do it. Has all the skills but lacking the size and strength to dominate in the paint. That will develop as he gets bigger, which he will.
 
Daniels and Graham from Broad Street are on that list but have played about 40 games each between them.

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Try again. FACT CHECK-

Daniels played in 51 games this year. Averaged about 15 mpg. Comes off the bench. Shot 38.1% from the three (what they signed him for). Has one year left an his contract which pays him just under $4 million a year.

Graham played in 35, despite having been injured for a large part of the year. He also has one year left on his contract and Will make about $2 million next year.

So you only missed the total number of games by a factor of 2.
 
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