Put the letter on the Billboard! So instead of #FireMooney it would be more like #PleaseFireMooney.
They're off to a 1–5 start, even though they have the winningest coach in SLU baseball history.
I wasn't commenting on whether he should or shouldn't have been fired, I was just pointing out that he hasn't even been there in three years but still has two more recent NCAA trips than Mooney.
I think the line was Spiders - 2, but you're statement mirrors mine
In my opinion, if we had both forwards going for offensive rebounds while the center and both guards retreat, we likely would have won enough additional games to be in ncaa discussion rather than NIT discussion.
Mooney never changes. Bad defensive metrics and bad rebounding metrics. Listening to a lot of sports radio and handicapping, we are what they are calling a paper lion. Soft in other words, and Mooney keeps rolling out the same philosophy year after year.
FYI the blue text is the link. I was initially confused as well even though links are commonly indicated in this way. I just didn’t realize one could have an in-line link like that on a forum post.
Another comment by SDJ too. It's impossible for them to separate the Program from the Coach. Sad, really.
Tj Cline should’ve been playing in the nba and didn’t make it to the tourney. Ugh.
You know it’s odd….TJ had to go through a separate, individual training to toughen him up…….because softy Mookie doesn’t do it.
Players are gonna support a coach who they feel mentored them. What irks me is guys like SDJ and TJ do this publicly with members of the fan base and they don't seem to have any realization that the fan base has a different perspective.
no idea why that irks you. it's personal for them. just accept that they have a different perspective than you. that's ok.
The loyalty to our program is evident on this board. Many of us have been Spider fans probably longer than twice the age of recent loyal Mooney players. This is not to disparage the recent grads. They have their right to support CM. I would love to hear any of them speak to the failures in the last 10 years for Mooney to lead them to championships or March Madness. Are there any statements that someone can post via these players?
Listening to the post game radio show after the game the other night explains it all. No one discussed the lob to win the game for Dayton, it was just we’ve been so close in so many games against good teams or in the case of that game “the refs should have called a foul on the last play”. I would imagine that’s how all of mooney’s players think and how former players explain their lack of ncaa appearances.
I accept that and am OK with them privately supporting Mooney as a former mentor and/or friend.
And no of course not, they don't support their statements with any type of facts, just emotion. Of course, when you got zero good facts to support your argument, you only have put emotion to put out.
I think you're right. They've been conditioned to focus primarily on the positives, real or perceived ("we made a lot of good plays and tried hard") and overlook the negatives ("we lost"). It's why we lose so many close games. We're not tough enough. We don't scrap and claw for every loose ball. We don't play physical basketball. We whine about officiating. We're soft.
agreed. but if you're ok with the (usually anonymous) fan voicing his opinion then I think you should be ok with the former player voicing his ... whether you are on the same side of the arguemnt or not.
I already said why I think they shouldn't do it. Do they have a right to voice their opinion, of course. Do I think it is a good idea for them to do so, definetly not.
there aren't statistical facts that can back it up. He and SDJ likely feel Mooney is a great mentor and coach. they grew as players with him and won a good amount of games with him. they both play professionally so I'm sure they credit Mooney. I'm also sure they shoulder the burden of not making the dance on themselves. coaches put you in position to win games. those on the floor still have to make the plays and get the stops.
