There you go again, with all those silly facts that don't fit the narrative. FAKE NEWS!
#FreeSolly
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There you go again, with all those silly facts that don't fit the narrative. FAKE NEWS!
if Duquesne and Richmond switched OOCs, the records would be switched as well.
Of the many things that are weird about the Curious Case of Solly Stansbury, the oddest to me is that he demonstrated in practices and scrimmages for over a year that he was one of the five best players on our roster. Then game time comes and he sucks? I’m not buying it.
If he rated high enough to start, his skills objectively should be roughly equivalent to our other starters, correct?
I don’t think Solly stinks, I think that he wasn’t doing something in games that CM wanted. What’s weird is that CM didn’t let him try to play through it. We sucked in OOC, what was there to lose. Feels like yet another in a string of questionable coaching decisions.
If he rated high enough to start, his skills objectively should be roughly equivalent to our other starters, correct?
I don’t think Solly stinks, I think that he wasn’t doing something in games that CM wanted. What’s weird is that CM didn’t let him try to play through it. We sucked in OOC, what was there to lose. Feels like yet another in a string of questionable coaching decisions.
Maybe Solly saw what happened with PF and decided he didn't have that much time to waste.
So, neither Solly, or PF, or JMA has worked out. Then you have Cayo at 6'7", but listed as a guard. Were they all competing for minutes at the same 1 or 2 positions? Did Cayo take their minutes, or is he more of a backup to the small forward position? If he didn't take them then Mooney just sticks in another guard Buck becomes the five? Solly, PF and JMA. 3 different type players coming with different skills. Interesting that none of the three worked out considering their differences.The question is what is Mooney wanting that none of the 3 can provide for him? Offense, defense, rebounding, intangibles? Maybe Cayo moved in front of all of them for the same minutes. He would be the closest to Solly in competing for the same minutes. If Mooney brought in Solly to shore up the front court, then we can see why he failed. On the flip side, if the kid has no interest in being in school or pursuing a degree, then he doesn't need to be there. At this point, he was just dead weight at the end of the bench. Leaving now helps with Mooney's recruiting.
Hopefully CM feels the same way. As much as I like Cayo's play so far, PF fills a completely different role that Cayo can't. Big body to protect the lane and if hard foul or so occurs, fine with me. If he gives you 3, 4, whatever quality minutes a game, it's a plus in resting GG with a less skilled, but similar type player. I like that he's hung around at UR and been supportive of his teammates throughout.
I've been wondering if Mooney might try maybe a 3 minute stretch with GG & PF in at the same time. Probably will never happen, but in a game like last night when we're just getting pounded on the boards, it might be worth a look.
Of all our guys, I think Paul shows the most natural form boxing out. He knows how to find a body and prevent them from going to the ball.
We must be seeing things differently. He does get good positioning but several times I've watched opposing players go around him and grab the rebound.
Not saying he’s flawless, I just notice he actually finds a body. I rarely see anyone else do that.
I'll give him plenty of credit. He's always moving on defense and his hands are always up. I just think he's too slow for Mooney's D.
Based on this year’s performances, one could argue that all our players are too slow for Mooney’s D.
Based on this year’s performances, one could argue that Mooney doesn't have a D.
S-man: My 75% hit rate was referencing guys we actually sign and enroll. 75% of them have to be impactful players.
You mention the 5 recruits that are impactful now, 6 if you count Julius. Shoot, I'll even throw in Cayo because he has potential. Paul, does not count. He plays averages 4 minutes per game and has scored 8 points all year. Not impactful, sorry. Problem is, we have 13 guys on our roster and have lost a couple other players over the past couple of years who were non-impactful and the list of transfers who crapped out in the past several has already been bantered about.
Which means, that Mooney is hitting on about 50% of his recruits. This is why we have a young team and why you can only mention 5 really impactful players right now on our roster. That is the problem. No depth. Can you imagine what would happen to this team, if Grant, Buck, Gilyard, just one of those guys had to miss some games because of injuries. It would be brutal, because we have no depth.
That has been the issue with Mooney the past 7 years. He can't recruit enough good players. 5 good players is not enough if you want to win A-10 Championships and go to the NCAA.
Well, Solly didn't enroll at those schools did he? So, maybe Mooney won the recruiting battle or maybe those offers were quite soft. Either way, he enrolled here and didn't enroll at Temple, Cinci, and UM. So, that stain is not on them and their staff's, it is on ours.
gotcha. I misunderstood, thinking you meant hit rate on recruiting targets.
our top 5 is talented. in a year we might consider this top 5 one of our best. and #6 is a solid piece. you're right, we don't have enough depth that we can count on. and if anyone went down we'd have big problems. but I actually don't think that depth is why we struggled early this year (other than losing Khwan for a few games). the main guys plus Solly just didn't play well enough. some will say that's all on Mooney. I don't know. players got to play. we didn't change scheme-wise since the start and yet we look a ton better lately. so what changed?
The energy level of the team has been completely different in the conference season vs. what it was in the OOC season. The same was true last year. That's a red flag to me because we were a veteran team last year and a young team this year, which indicates experience levels had nothing to do with it. We simply were not properly prepared and/or motivated, and to me that falls on the coaching staff.
We seem to approach the OOC season as if it's a training session that doesn't count. Similarly it seems Mooney's system at times is designed as if he will have each player for 8 years instead of only 4. We need to show more urgency and energy from the beginning. Glad we are showing it now, at least.
We seem to approach the OOC season as if it's a training session that doesn't count. Similarly it seems Mooney's system at times is designed as if he will have each player for 8 years instead of only 4. We need to show more urgency and energy from the beginning. Glad we are showing it now, at least.
We’ve started playing more straight zone and straight man defenses, we’ve changed a lot of scheme on D. I think that’s the primary difference. And playing some easier competition potentially.
So Solly was up and down for sure, but he had several games where he scored between 6-12 points in anywhere from 11-19 minutes. That’s actually fairly respectable. I think if he actually got some minutes, you would have seen more. Total speculation of course, hard to prove when he’s not on the court.
Probably. This of course seems to apply to about 60% of our roster.
What part of student athlete does this guy not understand? He has placed no value what so ever on education. Almost no athlete makes a living playing sports. What is he going to do when it ends or he gets injured?
Last I checked, you don’t have to be in the 18-22 age range to go to college. If you make a decent sum overseas, just shift the schedule and go to school when you’re done playing. This is common with baseball players that go straight into the minor leagues. The real issue then is discipline to actually follow through. But if you’re not invested in school at 22 anyway...what difference does it make? One could make a strong argument when you’re paying for school yourself you take it much more seriously and get more out of it than when you’re on a free ride.
But there is a time limit that starts once you are in college and on a team...
If you become a missionary, or join the military or something out of high school the clock doesn’t start until you are in college.
But if you go to college for 2 years then join the military, hard to return and play....
If he accepts money for playing overseas he cannot play in college anyway. DTSpider is have talking about going back to get an education at some point after his basketball career is over, not to play college basketball.
Mr Tbone, Thanks for the observations on the possible scheme changes alluded to above and quoted below...
"We’ve started playing more straight zone and straight man defenses, we’ve changed a lot of scheme on D. I think that’s the primary difference. And playing some easier competition potentially."
I try to pay attention to schemes, but had not picked up on the addition of a "straight-zone" for us in additional to the straight-man, which is easier to spot. Am personally very pleased to see some variations on defense and we certainly seem to be allowing far fewer wide-open shots, and our help-D seems to have improved significantly too, with fewer uncontested dunks inside. Whatever we have started doing, it seems to be a vast improvement over our first few games.
I thought Solly looked good this past summer, but not great, and projected him as capable of around 10 and 5, per game as a starter (based on watching him in several practices). At that time he must have been ahead of Nate, but Nate must have caught up. I just wish our coaches had settled on our current starting line-up earlier, since adjusting to new guys on the court can take a while. We have paid a high price for the delay in the choice of starters and in making the scheme "adjustments." .
"We’ve started playing more straight zone and straight man defenses, we’ve changed a lot of scheme on D. I think that’s the primary difference. And playing some easier competition potentially."
I try to pay attention to schemes, but had not picked up on the addition of a "straight-zone" for us in additional to the straight-man, which is easier to spot. Am personally very pleased to see some variations on defense and we certainly seem to be allowing far fewer wide-open shots, and our help-D seems to have improved significantly too, with fewer uncontested dunks inside. Whatever we have started doing, it seems to be a vast improvement over our first few games.
I thought Solly looked good this past summer, but not great, and projected him as capable of around 10 and 5, per game as a starter (based on watching him in several practices). At that time he must have been ahead of Nate, but Nate must have caught up. I just wish our coaches had settled on our current starting line-up earlier, since adjusting to new guys on the court can take a while. We have paid a high price for the delay in the choice of starters and in making the scheme "adjustments." .
#FreeSolly
He was my main source of optimism that we could have a balanced roster heading into the past season. Albeit a little bit of a short stretch 4.
Now the optimism is for Bryce to join the Spiders, and not lose a starter or two. It is becoming difficult to be a fan. Though it did seem that I had at least 50 % approval rating for my fandom.
"This is a net neutral post"
This #SollySituation really blew up on us. Would love to get the inside scoop.
He was my main source of optimism that we could have a balanced roster heading into the past season. Albeit a little bit of a short stretch 4.
Now the optimism is for Bryce to join the Spiders, and not lose a starter or two. It is becoming difficult to be a fan. Though it did seem that I had at least 50 % approval rating for my fandom.
"This is a net neutral post"
This #SollySituation really blew up on us. Would love to get the inside scoop.
It is unfortunate that Solly didn't pan out. I am not sure if it was because he was playing out of position at the 4, or if he just wasn't as good in game as he was in practice for some reason, or something else happened.
What he did in games was just not very good. He had the lowest 2FG% and 3FG% on the team but took a lot of shots (poor shot selection) and rebounded at a similar rate to the 6'0 Fore even though he was 7 inches taller. We were a better team with Buck at the 4, Solly just didn't produce in games for whatever reason.
What he did in games was just not very good. He had the lowest 2FG% and 3FG% on the team but took a lot of shots (poor shot selection) and rebounded at a similar rate to the 6'0 Fore even though he was 7 inches taller. We were a better team with Buck at the 4, Solly just didn't produce in games for whatever reason.
I still say the one thing he did well was see passing lanes on defense. In games where he got more minutes, didn't his steal percentage improve?
He did have a good steal percentage, only behind Gilyard in that regard. Buck beat him out in essentially all other facets of the game on both ends of the court though.
