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Extend Rocco!

I understand that happens at a number of major programs where the coach's full salary might be 'politically inconvenient', but let's be honest here. At last report WIU's entire University Endowment was just over $40m. You're telling me that WIU has some 'slush fund' that's providing some major subsidy to the coach of a money losing football program? I just don't see it.
 
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Those figures are not representative of what the coaches received from the school, indicating solely what the state pays as salary. The article is very misleading. For example, the same figures for UVa shows that London was paid a little over $380,000 (see link below), but we all know that he received about 10 times that amount from other UVa resources.
The amounts paid by foundations and/or other private sources are not included. and they pay the bulk of the coaches salaries. I suspect it's the same in every state, including Illinois....even Alabama.

It's hard for most taxpayers to swallow that their state would pay a coach more than its president.

Mike London's Salary
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"The article is very misleading."

Please confirm that the article is misleading for the Illinois coaches that are Illinois state employees.I'm always curious when someone says that information
provided by publically available documentation is misleading.Prove that above information is incorrect or incomplete or untrue or misleading.The written word is cheap when it can't be backed up.Prove it wrong.

Here are the particulars-which part is misleading or untrue?

  • Contract term: July 1, 2014-Dec. 31, 2017
  • Base salary: $206,892
  • Conference: Missouri Valley Football Conference
  • 2013 season record: 4-8 (2-6 in MVFC)
Bonus incentives (percent of base salary):

  • Competes in NCAA FCS playoffs: 5 percent ($10,344.60)
  • Each FCS playoff game won: 10 percent ($20,689.20)
  • FCS national champions: 35 percent ($72,412.20)
  • At the end of season, WIU will pay additional bonus if ranked:
    • Number 1: $15,000
    • Top 5: $7,500
    • Top 10: $5,000
    • Top 25: $2,500
  • Wins MVFC championship: $5,000
  • MVFC Coach of the Year: $5,000
    • Eddie Robinson, National Coach of the Year: $10,000
  • Beats NCAA Division I FBS team: $5,000 for each win (additional $10,000 if two Division I opponents beaten).
  • Football program shows: $12,000 for one contract year
  • GPA bonuses:
    • Team semester GPA highest of all men’s sports: $3,500
    • Team semester GPA second-highest of all men’s sports: $3,000
    • Team semester GPA third-highest of all men’s sports: $2,500
    • Team semester GPA fourth-highest of all men’s sports: $2,000
    • Team GPA is 2.9 or higher in a semester: $2,000
  • Team’s single year NCAA Academic Progress Rate (APR):
    • Increase of 5 points from previous year – $2,000
    • Increase of 10 points from previous year – $5,000
    • $5,000 bonus any year the football team has the highest APR in MVFC
    • $5,000 bonus each year team maintains APR of at least 975
  • Sponsorship fee of $5,000 payable to the Coach if achieves required attendance levels for overnight summer football camps.
 
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Here's an article about the comp for Klieman at North Dakota State. http://www.inforum.com/sports/bison...l-coach-kliemans-contract-through-2020-season

I would surmise his pay is pretty much the gold standard for a FCS coach at a public school.

I believe Rocco is certainly compensated as one of the Top 5 FCS coaches (and believe he deserves that pay). Ironically, i believe Turner Gill might be the highest paid coach out our level.
 
I concur. It would be interesting to know the COLA between Richmond VA and Fargo ND though.
 
^^Interesting. I'm surprised by that.

I- I believe our Coordinators make somewhere in the neighborhood of $100-120k.

For instance, when Mike Faragelli left here as OC to be London's WR coach at UVA, he went ftom the range I cited for an OC here to about $175k.

Yes, I'm surmising but I feel pretty solid about what I'm surmisimg.
 
The list 32 posted from USA Today a bit earlier in this thread backs up what I said about Faragelli. Look where Marques Hagan is.
 
Great to see some football chatter with some factual information and some "surmising" based on it...rather than just random surmising. Sometimes I struggle with our BB board.

Would hate to lose Fisher. Believe he did an outstanding job for us this season. Not much he, Sparky, and Rocco haven't seen and feel we are in good hands with our present staff...well, except one assistant.
 
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Actually, I posted the article from USA Today.
BTW, Fisher is not only OC but also Assoc. Head Coach. I have no idea what he makes at UR.
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As an aside, what the hell is an Associate Head Coach anyway? The guy that becomes the head coach if the head coach becomes ill or gets thrown out of a game? How often does that happen?

I see that term tossed around in college football way more lately than I can ever remember.

Did the new Maryland coach hire both London and Lembo as Associate HC? Is one like the Biden and the other the Mitch McConnell of MD football?
 
Looks like a PowerPoint presentation:


Interim AD has created a cluster group.He's a professor by trade and obviously prefers a shared decision process by forming a varied group for consensus building..........
 
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^^Agree. I'll be happy for Fisher and new perspective and ideas won't hurt.

Keep an eye on castaways from UVA and VT.
 
Lets hope that Gill is very involved with DR and his attorney on getting a new deal done. This needs to happen and happen quickly.
 
Rob Ash is no longer involved in the WIU search. Fisher hammering out a contract or more candidates being added?

This whole thing makes me appreciative of how we conduct searches.
 
Ash will be 65 in July.Probably asked himself "What the hell am I doing wanting this job and all the headaches that go along with a state school in rough financial shape".Time to go fishing back in Montana.

Western Illinois: Per source, Rob Ash has withdrawn from the process. Ash and Richmond offensive coordinator Charlie Fisher visited campus this week.

Ash actually interested in the Southern Utah University(SUU) head coaching job.

http://www.wgem.com/story/30868350/...kes-twist-as-ash-withdraws-from-consideration

Charlie is 10 years younger than Ash and can likely get a 5 year deal at $210K base plus incentives.

Hopefully,Charlie doesn't raid any of the UR assistants or our strength/fitness guru.
 
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Getting Sparky was good for Rocco, and bring Fisher in to eventually be OC worked out well. This next hire for Rocco will be his biggest though. Now the program has respect again, let's see who he can attract
 
Kevin Anderson + Justin Harper + supplemental cast =Beat Vandy+Beat Morehead State=Sweet Sixteen=NCAA monies=Other schools show interest in our Princeton grad coach----> Lucky Timing is Everything to double salary with Long Term Deal.
 
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Its a simple reason. A10 coaches market vs CAA market. Both of our guys are in the top quarter of both leagues. You pay what the market demands.
 
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As far as Mooney, it's not the compensation that bothers me because it is in line with market demand, but a 10 year contract off a Sweet 16? A Sweet 16?! No friggin' way is that justified.

I would like to see Rocco be the highest paid coach in the conference, and his assistant pool be in the top 3.
 
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Congratulations to Charlie, well deserved. I hope whoever comes here doesn't try to change what ain't broke.

Btw, for all of you who love to bash me every time I mention trick plays, I hope that you watched the second half of the TCU-Oregon game. Maybe one of the greatest comebacks of all time.
 
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Was just posting about that game when the thread was deleted on the BB board. Up 31-0 at the half and lost in triple overtime.
 
No. 11 TCU roars back to beat No. 15 Oregon 47-41 in triple overtime
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TCU wide receiver Jaelan Austin (15) catches a touchdown pass in front of Oregon cornerback Chris Seisay (12) during the second half of the Alamo Bowl NCAA college football game, Saturday, Jan. 2, 2016, in San Antonio.AP

The Associated Press
January 02, 2016 11:13 PM
SAN ANTONIO — Bram Kohlhausen's 8-yard touchdown run in the third overtime carried No. 11 TCU to a wild 47-41 victory over No. 15 Oregon in the Alamo Bowl on Saturday night as the Horned Frogs stormed back from a 31-0 halftime deficit behind a backup quarterback.

The 31-point comeback to win tied the record for a bowl game, matching Texas Tech in the 2006 Insight Bowl against Minnesota in 2006.

Oregon stormed to the big lead early behind quarterback Vernon Adams Jr., but he was knocked out of the game late in the second quarter after taking a hard hit to the head. Oregon gained only 18 yards in regulation in the second half.

Kohlhausen started in place of TCU's Trevone Boykin, who was suspended after a bar fight two days earlier. Kohlhausen passed for 351 yards and two touchdowns and ran for two more scores.

Best Bowl game by Orders of Magnitude.Adams-Boykin-Kohlhausen.The walk-on had the last word.Great story.
 
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Per JOC blog-

"UR's Danny Rocco (back-to-back FCS playoffs, 2015 semis) said he is not involved in Ball State search. He did not express interest in job."
 
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Per JOC blog-

"UR's Danny Rocco (back-to-back FCS playoffs, 2015 semis) said he is not involved in Ball State search. He did not express interest in job."
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Good. Perhaps JOC could have just asked the man about it before all of his ridiculous social media conjecture about it last week?
 
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I agree. Many times I believe JOC likes to fuel a fire that may not even have a spark. Poor journalism to speculate with no credible source.
 
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I agree. Many times I believe JOC likes to fuel a fire that may not even have a spark. Poor journalism to speculate with no credible source.
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I agree with you there, but I will say he did strike gold back in 05 when he broke the Patriot League story. Who knows if we could of fought Cooper had he not leaked that story. Sometimes gotta take the gold with the bad I guess.

Didn't he graduate from UR? Remember reading where he didn't seem to take too much pride writing for his alma mata and kind of looked at it as just a job, or at least that's what he implied.
 
Ferrum Spider said:
I agree with you there, but I will say he did strike gold back in 05 when he broke the Patriot League story. Who knows if we could of fought Cooper had he not leaked that story. Sometimes gotta take the gold with the bad I guess.

Didn't he graduate from UR? Remember reading where he didn't seem to take too much pride writing for his alma mata and kind of looked at it as just a job, or at least that's what he implied.
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I believe he played Spiders Baseball if not mistaken.
 
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