Re: 30 second possessions and depth
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My theory before the NIT was that the shorter clock would not increase scoring because teams already have difficulty getting off good shots with the 35-second clock, so how are they going to get off BETTER shots with a 30-second clock? Now one way scoring could increase is if fouls increase, which is possible. But that is not the way I would want to see scoring increase anyway.
That said, I think the 30-second clock benefits us next year, if it is implemented. Teams have less time to attack our defense, but it shouldn't really impact our offense much. I think that's mostly what we saw in the NIT.
That said, I think the 30-second clock benefits us next year, if it is implemented. Teams have less time to attack our defense, but it shouldn't really impact our offense much. I think that's mostly what we saw in the NIT.
Going into the Miami game, we were 11 possessions per game higher in the NIT than regular season. Not sure post-Miami.
This post was edited on 3/28 11:14 PM by MolivaManiac
This post was edited on 3/28 11:14 PM by MolivaManiac
Understand the transition to 30 seconds, but don't love it. We're an athletic, but cerebral, team. That's our counterpunch against the teams who roll out 5 poorly coached super athletes with length. The more time we have to variate the tempo of our offensive attack, the better.
I liken it to a pitcher in baseball. If his fastball is 96 MPH but his change up is only 91 MPH, he won't be fooling many hitters. If it's a 94 MPH fastball with a 77 MPH change up, it's going to be a lot tougher to get timed up. May be a bit apples and oranges, but I really do think that extra 5 seconds has a major effect on mixing up the tempo. If we're taking a shot with :02 left on one possession, then with :32 on the next possession, that is a terror to defend against. This may be my bias, but in the NCAA tourney, there were a lot of situations where athletic teams mentally blew up on D with < 5 seconds on the shot clock. 35 seconds is a sleepy pace, and a long time to think for some folks who are not used to it, so the mental lapses are expected. Did not see as many mental breakdowns late with the 30 second clock.
Whatever puts the most athletic teams out of their comfort zone, I'm all for. NCAA basketball is special, please don't turn it into a watered down version of the NBA.
This post was edited on 3/29 12:59 PM by HuntsmanSpider
I liken it to a pitcher in baseball. If his fastball is 96 MPH but his change up is only 91 MPH, he won't be fooling many hitters. If it's a 94 MPH fastball with a 77 MPH change up, it's going to be a lot tougher to get timed up. May be a bit apples and oranges, but I really do think that extra 5 seconds has a major effect on mixing up the tempo. If we're taking a shot with :02 left on one possession, then with :32 on the next possession, that is a terror to defend against. This may be my bias, but in the NCAA tourney, there were a lot of situations where athletic teams mentally blew up on D with < 5 seconds on the shot clock. 35 seconds is a sleepy pace, and a long time to think for some folks who are not used to it, so the mental lapses are expected. Did not see as many mental breakdowns late with the 30 second clock.
Whatever puts the most athletic teams out of their comfort zone, I'm all for. NCAA basketball is special, please don't turn it into a watered down version of the NBA.
This post was edited on 3/29 12:59 PM by HuntsmanSpider
I think the 30 second clock will help versatile teams that have 2 or 3 different defenses. They can mix and match them and make the offensive team waste time figuring out what they are up against. Not sure we have that versatility. We should but it doesn't really matter if you give up 15 offensive rebounds. As of now on offense we are going to run it down to the last 5 seconds whether we have 30 seconds or 45 seconds. Just the way we play. I would like to see us come down the floor looking to get it inside to our strength, which is TA and TJ for quick high percentage shots. Also if its not there TJ can distribute it. If Chris persist on playing DT and TD at 2 and 3 where we get no point production, I would like to see at least one crash the boards with TA. My real dream is that our team goes to Rebound and Box Out camp all off season. To be an NCAA team next year we will need to close our rebounds differential per game gap and get 15 total points per game out of the 2 & 3 positions.
This post was edited on 3/29 1:46 PM by SpiderK
This post was edited on 3/29 1:46 PM by SpiderK
Here is an analysis of the NIT's 30 second shot clock.
http://regressing.deadspin.com/how-has-the-ncaas-new-30-sec-shot-clock-worked-this-pos-1695275647
Overview:
- scoring increased
- tempo increased, this is the biggest reason for the increased scoring
- efficiency and shooting were basically unaffected (though they did increased slightly)
http://regressing.deadspin.com/how-has-the-ncaas-new-30-sec-shot-clock-worked-this-pos-1695275647
Overview:
- scoring increased
- tempo increased, this is the biggest reason for the increased scoring
- efficiency and shooting were basically unaffected (though they did increased slightly)
Funny, I was looking at the NIT Semi-Final on Tuesday (Miami vs. Temple), and they were talking about Larranaga's playing career at Providence, and they were talking about when he played Lew Alcindor's UCLA team at The Garden, and the score was 98-81. That was with no shot clock, and no 3-pt. line. And now they have to have 3 point lines and shot clocks to increase scoring? I partially blame Dean Smith for this. Him and his 4-corners offense.
As mentioned in an earlier thread, the FC press & 30 second clock really took us out of our element. We were out of rhythm with passing and shooting, and there was less time to set up plays and metagame.
If the NCAA is going to cater to the less cerebral, more athletic teams (they probably will...) , hopefully it only requires a minor coaching adjustment on CM's part.
If the NCAA is going to cater to the less cerebral, more athletic teams (they probably will...) , hopefully it only requires a minor coaching adjustment on CM's part.
