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712LLC · 2024-05-14T18:13:02-0400

mojo-spider said:
I like you optimism about the AQ, but it’s only true if we can continue to recruit an occasional Lauletta, Turner, Wheeler and the solid FCS players we have attracted over the years.

Our coaching staff will have a big challenge overcoming the PL’s long standing reputation as a lower level League and keeping our current team motivated in our CAA lame duck season.

Looking forward to seeing how this all unfolds in the long run.

Go Spiders!

I doubt we end up being good in the patriot after the first few years. We’ll have enough talent early on but after recruiting inevitably drops off and with that support of football we’ll be toast. This is the excuse the administration needs to completely push football off to the side and neglect it. I’ve heard people say that level of investment won’t change but I have a hard time believing that. If anything I expect us to eventually not offer scholarships or at least cut the amount of them in half. You don’t make this move if you’re actually serious about football.

ncspiderfan · 2024-05-14T18:09:47-0400

32counter said:
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Interesting about the recruiting we do against PL. I wonder how many of those recruits we won in the past due to CAA vs PL affiliation. He was careful with his answer.
He all but said the coaches recruiting now were in a lesser position trying to sell without CAA as part of the package. Thats the way I took the answer anyway.
He also mentioned the PL traditionally is a one bid league.

Spider B · 2024-05-14T18:03:13-0400

If I'm W/M, I'm making a hard push to get in the SoCon for all sports.

32counter · 2024-05-14T17:49:37-0400

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mojo-spider · 2024-05-14T17:47:05-0400

32counter said:
We barely beat Colgate a few years back in a home and home series with Lauletta.

I think that Holy Cross could have handled us in the past few years.

And so why are we complaining about this move?

The AQ should be ours every year and we should be highly ranked.

I like you optimism about the AQ, but it’s only true if we can continue to recruit an occasional Lauletta, Turner, Wheeler and the solid FCS players we have attracted over the years.

Our coaching staff will have a big challenge overcoming the PL’s long standing reputation as a lower level League and keeping our current team motivated in our CAA lame duck season.

Looking forward to seeing how this all unfolds in the long run.

Go Spiders!

bullfrog91 · 2024-05-14T17:42:32-0400

SFspidur said:
The four AE schools plus URI could be a decent group, but they need a few more. Merrimack and Sacred Heart are currently homeless for football as they transition from NEC to MAAC for their primary affiliation, but NEC had a max of 45 'ships for football, so those two would have to step up if they wanted to join the AE/URI group.

Villanova and W&M seem to be what's holding things together at this point. If they too explore other options, the CAA will be in bad shape. It would feel like a missed opportunity for us if W&M ends up going to the SoCon, but if Villanova went Patriot that would be a decent consolation prize. Villanova has been the subject of FBS rumors seemingly forever though, so I wonder if there will be any renewed momentum for that.

Does WM even have an option to leave for football only?

Gallipoli · 2024-05-14T17:27:41-0400

General US Grant was one of the first practitioners of hard war. He said that nations, like individuals, are punished for their transgressions.

Hamas must be punished for its transgressions against Israel, including its murder of children, its rape of women, and its taking of hostages. It will be pulled from this earth by its roots.

whampas · 2024-05-14T17:26:20-0400

If Richmond is smart, they become the bell cow and drive the other schools to keep up and strengthen the league. The CAA is very steadily headed in the wrong direction and the PL just got stronger. All it would take is for Nova and WM to leave and that would be the end of the CAA. It would not surprise me to see WM go FBS in the footsteps of JMU, ODU and Liberty. It's just going to keep changing. This could be an okay stopping off place.

32counter · 2024-05-14T17:19:21-0400

We barely beat Colgate a few years back in a home and home series with Lauletta.

We lost to Fordham 5 years ago at Rose Hill.

I think that Holy Cross could have handled us in the past few years.

And so why are we complaining about this move?

The AQ should be ours every year and we should be highly ranked.

Ferrum Spider · 2024-05-14T17:18:35-0400

SFspidur said:
Gonna need to up our spelling and grammar game in the Patriot.

Besides Villanova. Are there any other available private northeastern academically elite schools that also do well at FCS football the PL can add?

SpiderAlways · 2024-05-14T17:05:29-0400

Gallipoli said:
NOVA has better sense than to throw away its football program.

who's their rival now? Delaware is gone. Maybe they'd rather play Georgetown? but hey, There is always Bryant Monmouth Hampton and NC a&t

whampas · 2024-05-14T17:00:20-0400

Gallipoli said:
NOVA has better sense than to throw away its football program.

They shut it down before.

Gallipoli · 2024-05-14T16:59:55-0400

This is about money. The NIL requirements for the Patriot League are much lower than the CAA. This is designed to cut the monetary support for football at UR. Richmond will never get top flight quality players in football- like Tim Hightower, Kyle Lauletta, Reece Udinsky, Jacob Herres or Shawn Barber.

Gallipoli · 2024-05-14T16:56:47-0400

wr70beh said:
Hoping Nova comes over to Patriot and maybe the Patriot can get more than one bid.

NOVA has better sense than to throw away its football program.

urmite · 2024-05-14T16:56:45-0400

GKiller said:
I believe they allow non med redshirts now. But they do have an Academic Index that affects recruiting but idk if much different than our own standards. I know little about it their rules fwiw I'm just going by a few comments of Pat League posters over on AGS when I glanced at reactions over there.

Are redshirts permanent or was that only for duration of Covid. I don’t know and we will see.
If no redshirts, that does make it difficult.

whampas · 2024-05-14T16:54:04-0400

Ferrum Spider said:
IDC about leaving the CAA. It was on borrowed time. What I cant accept is the lack of public due diligence save a suggestive post from JOC last week eerily similar to 2005 only lacking similar outrage from the fan base. I have no doubt the admin made sure the move was made so there couldn't be any debate over this.

Yes the CAA is not what it once was, I was fine with leaving it too. Culturally from a FOOTBALL perspective the SOCON would of been a better immediate choice. Some more forward thinking could of brought back A10 football with a combo of UR, Fordham, UNH, Maine, URI, Duquense and Villanova. Either would of been better options of spearheading the de-emphasization of football at UR. Maybe NOVA moves to the PL and we keep the

Eight Legger said:
I think the point is that the entire league was not north of us. The entire Patriot League is.

Advantage Richmond. Always want to be southernmost school in conference.

urmite · 2024-05-14T16:51:19-0400

GKiller said:
Welcome back DD

Which team folded on Gameday? I forget…

wr70beh · 2024-05-14T16:49:07-0400

SFspidur said:
On Sagarin, SoCon was actually rated only slightly higher than Patriot last year, but SoCon clearly gets more respect...four ranked teams and three playoff participants last year compared to only Lafayette out of the Patriot.

Sagarin Ratings last year:

CAA (19th - 47.14)
93. Villanova
116. Albany
142. Delaware (leaving)
145. UNH
167. Elon
168. UR
171. W&M
172. Bryant (incoming)
174. Monmouth
177. URI
190. Towson
196. Campbell
208. Maine
228. Hampton
230. NC A&T
243. Stony Brook

Patriot (22nd - 42.91)
135. Holy Cross
154. Lafayette
188. Fordham
198. Colgate
207. Georgetown
219. Bucknell
229. Lehigh

SoCon (21st - 44.33)
130. Furman
159. Western Carolina
161. Chattanooga
166. Mercer
181. Samford
209. VMI
221. Wofford
232. ETSU
252. Citadel

So based on this we would be 3rd in the Patriot in ratings and in the middle of the pack in the SoCon.

Based on Playoff Bids in 2024:
MVFC - 6
Big Sky - 4
CAA - 4
SoCon - 3
The other 6 conferences competing - 1 each

Of course Delaware has one of the bids and we had another, so that's 2 leaving from the CAA. I don't see how the CAA can keep getting multi-bids the direction the conference is taking.

Hoping Nova comes over to Patriot and maybe the Patriot can get more than one bid.

whampas · 2024-05-14T16:48:31-0400

Mo 2.0 said:
I've been heavily medicated ever since.

The last home bb game I saw in person. Will come back when Mooney retires.

SpiderAlways · 2024-05-14T16:46:10-0400

Plus, if we can kiss up to Georgetown... Big East baby!!

SpiderAlways · 2024-05-14T16:45:14-0400

What's been our average attendance over the last few years? I mean real attendance? a couple of thousand/ We are perfect for the PL

SpiderAlways · 2024-05-14T16:41:37-0400

spiderjpo said:
People who do not care about the football program really could care less. Those of us who are passionate about it are hurt the most. The quality of the Patriot League programs and commitment to football is definitely not at the level of the current CAA or Southern Conference. I hope our alumni that will now have more opportunities to view games as the President’s letter stated will enjoy attending all those games up north!

Wow, we never traveled up north in the CAA? where is that football power Maine exactly?

SpiderAlways · 2024-05-14T16:39:45-0400

GKiller said:
We probably just got W&M an invite to the Southern, if they want it.

I thought William & Mary was an academic institution

SpiderAlways · 2024-05-14T16:39:03-0400

712LLC said:
Lol at the basketball title. We won the regular season and then decided to quit right after which squandered a shot at the ncaa tournament. Men’s basketball is a failure unless they get to the ncaa tournament.

MrSpider?

GKiller · 2024-05-14T16:32:50-0400

DirtyDukes said:
Man, remember when you guys won a national champioship in 2008 and then downsized your stadium? Feels like this is just the natural progression of that.

Sucks to suck, y'all should just fold football and go all in on Lacrosse.

Welcome back DD

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