Womens: NET '24-'25 Rankings
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19. UR
40. St. Joe's
45. Mason
104. VCU
140. Duquesne
142. Rhody
160. Fordham
169. Davidson
206. Dayton
228. GW
249. UMass
256. Loyola
258. La Salle
326. Bona
stats.ncaa.org
40. St. Joe's
45. Mason
104. VCU
140. Duquesne
142. Rhody
160. Fordham
169. Davidson
206. Dayton
228. GW
249. UMass
256. Loyola
258. La Salle
326. Bona
NCAA Statistics
Remaining OOC opponents:
126. Georgetown
46. Columbia
2. Texas
32. Tennessee
23. Alabama
At #42 Fairfield and neutral vs. #37 Oklahoma State should currently be Q1 wins, though the database only lists us as 1–0 in Q1 for some reason.
126. Georgetown
46. Columbia
2. Texas
32. Tennessee
23. Alabama
At #42 Fairfield and neutral vs. #37 Oklahoma State should currently be Q1 wins, though the database only lists us as 1–0 in Q1 for some reason.
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Yeah, I don't understand their quads...they have us 1–0 in Q1/Q2/Q3 and 5–0 in Q4. Q4 is correct, but we should be 2–0 in Q1 and 1–0 in Q2 with no Q3 games.
Q1 (1–30 home, 1–50 neutral, 1–75 away)
at Fairfield (42)
vs Oklahoma State (37)
Q2 (31–75 home, 51–100 neutral, 76–135 away)
at Temple (100)
Q4 (161+ home, 201+ neutral, 241+ away)
Morgan St. (307)
Gardner-Webb (321)
W&M (311)
at App State (250)
vs Oakland (255)
Q1 (1–30 home, 1–50 neutral, 1–75 away)
at Fairfield (42)
vs Oklahoma State (37)
Q2 (31–75 home, 51–100 neutral, 76–135 away)
at Temple (100)
Q4 (161+ home, 201+ neutral, 241+ away)
Morgan St. (307)
Gardner-Webb (321)
W&M (311)
at App State (250)
vs Oakland (255)
This is setting up very nicely. If we beat Georgetown and even split the other 4, we should stay pretty firmly in the top 30 or so. Do better than that and we are looking at a ranking and the chance to go into A-10 play with the chance to play a couple games in the home whites in March.
Okay, I found the answer to my question. The women's quads are completely different from the men's and much more stringent for some reason. And it seems like they may shift from year to year based on previous season's results?
Q1: 1–25 home, 1–35 neutral, 1–45 away
Q2: 26–55 home, 36–65 neutral, 46–80 away
Q3: 56–90 home, 66–105 neutral, 81–130 away
Q4: 91+ home, 106+ neutral, 131+ away
Kind of insane to me that a home game against #91 would be a Q4.
Anyway, under that criteria, Fairfield is a Q1, Oklahoma State is a Q2, and Temple is a Q3.
Q1: 1–25 home, 1–35 neutral, 1–45 away
Q2: 26–55 home, 36–65 neutral, 46–80 away
Q3: 56–90 home, 66–105 neutral, 81–130 away
Q4: 91+ home, 106+ neutral, 131+ away
Kind of insane to me that a home game against #91 would be a Q4.
Anyway, under that criteria, Fairfield is a Q1, Oklahoma State is a Q2, and Temple is a Q3.
Truly bizarre. I guess I get why the ratings are a little different, since there's probably a greater disparity between the top 20-25 teams and everyone else, but still.
Looking at our opponents results so far, Georgetown & Columbia look to be at about the same level as OK State. These will be very tough games that we really need to win especially given the next 3 games. Obviously, a win against Texas would be amazing. Tennessee and especially Alabama look to have the advantage on us based on scoreboard watching. These will be great wins!
Yes, that's what I was thinking, too. There are bigger gaps in the tiers in women's hoops for sure. You will find many cases where a team wins by 40+ only to turn around and lose by 40+ in the very next game. Even within the top 25, it is very common for a 20-25 ranked team to get crushed by a top 10 team. And it is not uncommon for even a top 15 team to get crushed by a top 5 team.
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And we thought getting good games was tough for the men. There are like half as many Q1 and Q2 games to be had in women’s ball. The scarcity of resume building games seems really tough, but it seems like we have done a good job with scheduling.
Roussell giving us a masterclass on how to build, sustain success, and schedule at a high mid-major program. And he is doing sitting right across the hall from Mooney in our own building and yet somehow for our men's program, the answer is everything is too hard. Meanwhile, our women's team is rolling in with a NET of 19.
Looks like greater disparity is the reason for the different quadrants. Unfair to us in A10 which is a great conference, but will have more Q4 games than it probably should. Still, keep winning is the best thing we can do and everything else will fall into place.
Those are 2 valid points. Disparity as we pointed out earlier is way more prevalent in women's hoops. And home court advantage is close to non-existent unfortunately because of small crowd sizes. However, these points seem to be way over-emphasized in these quadrant tiers. Of course, quadrants are a stupid idea to begin with as I've pointed out numerous times.
I can at least understand the reasoning about the disparity between the top teams and the rest compared to men's basketball as a reason for adjusting the NET. However, the home court advantage should not be a reason to over-adjust it even more. Home court advantage isn't just the fans who show up the game that can give the home team an advantage, but its the familiarity the home team has with the court and perhaps its gameday routine. Also, not needing to travel distances (sometimes far with long bus rides or plane rides) that can make things even more tiresome. 91+ NET for Q4 is ridiculous.
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Has their ever been the situation of a women's coach at a school then becoming the men's coach? Just curious because I would not be opposed to being the first.
It should be a neutral game. I forget the exact language that's usually used, but generally if you don't play above a certain percentage of your home games at the venue, it's neutral, and this is our only game there (not counting A-10 tournament).
It was counted as a Q2 win, but that would have been the case either way against #49 as that quad includes 26–55 home and 36–65 neutral.
We're currently 2–0 in Q1 (#45 Fairfield away, #28 Oklahoma State neutral) and 2–0 in Q2 (#75 Temple away, #49 Columbia neutral). #80 G'town home is a BS Q3 loss.
It was counted as a Q2 win, but that would have been the case either way against #49 as that quad includes 26–55 home and 36–65 neutral.
We're currently 2–0 in Q1 (#45 Fairfield away, #28 Oklahoma State neutral) and 2–0 in Q2 (#75 Temple away, #49 Columbia neutral). #80 G'town home is a BS Q3 loss.
Dropped from 13 votes to 8 in the AP poll this week. Tied with South Dakota State for 33rd.
Current AP ranks of upcoming opponents: #6 Texas, #19 Tennessee, #26 Alabama. (Texas dropped from #4 last week as they lost to a top ten Notre Dame squad, while Alabama was #19 last week but lost to a very solid Cal.)
Current AP ranks of upcoming opponents: #6 Texas, #19 Tennessee, #26 Alabama. (Texas dropped from #4 last week as they lost to a top ten Notre Dame squad, while Alabama was #19 last week but lost to a very solid Cal.)
If you haven’t watched this team yet, start now! The women’s game is missing the athleticism you see in the men’s game, but this team can play! Much better shooters than the men right now, good playmaking, and good on defense too.
I mean our men's team is not really that athletic either sooo...., you might not even notice that much of a difference. The main difference between our men's and women's team appears to be our offense, defense, sound coaching and of course winning.
Challenge to athletic department - do something fast to stir up interest in the Texas game quickly - by now we should have offered tix to every girls aau program and all high school athletics teams’, male and female. We don’t get top 5 teams to visit very often
Completely agree. I would even go further and say that the tickets should be free for them too. That’s how you build fan base support from a younger age that hopefully lasts a lifetime.
i would think we are giving away some tix to groups. Reality is u could make every single ticket free and we would only get so much. same for football. JMU just played Texas at home and had 3,361. They got killed btw. I think that's a reasonable goal. The attendance not the killing. No idea where 3361 would rank in highest attended women hoops games in UR history. Hopefully it will be our best ever or near it. I'm not expecting anything crazy w atmosphere, even tho it will be excellent for UR women hoops, but hopefully it exceeds what is expected. The A10 tourney atmosophere was good but that was small venue and how many pure UR fans were there in reality - 2K? The loss to Gtown hurts hype too, although maybe only minimally.
Free tix is not a good business model but for special groups I have no prob with that.
Robins Center attendance records:
8,349 vs. #12 Virginia (12/10/94)
7,814 vs. #7 Penn State (12/09/94)
5,817 vs. #23 Alabama (12/02/95)
5,579 vs. Wake Forest (11/30/00)
5,536 vs. #6 North Carolina (12/03/95)
I'll be shocked if we get anywhere close to those numbers. Top 2 of course aren't even doable since renovations.
8,349 vs. #12 Virginia (12/10/94)
7,814 vs. #7 Penn State (12/09/94)
5,817 vs. #23 Alabama (12/02/95)
5,579 vs. Wake Forest (11/30/00)
5,536 vs. #6 North Carolina (12/03/95)
I'll be shocked if we get anywhere close to those numbers. Top 2 of course aren't even doable since renovations.
Thanks. They almost all go back 30 years. Wake 24 years. I'll be shocked if we get close to those last 3 too.
Notice those 1994 and 1995 games were two pairs of back-to-back dates. They were UR-hosted big-time doubleheader events. 1994 had UR playing Penn State and UVA with eventual national runner-up Tennessee as the fourth team while 1995 had UR playing Alabama and eventual national champ UNC with defending national champ UConn as the fourth.
We're talking about the women. The first meeting between the Spiders and Hokies on the women's side was in 1987.
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