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Whoa! Julius Johnson on fire.

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Julius was on fire in a recent high school playoff game. He scored 27 points. But get this, he had 7 three pointers! Yes, 7 threes! Moreover, he is already 6'3" 205 lbs and can jump out of the gym. Can't wait for Julius to don a Spider uniform.
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St Edwards is a mediocre team which did not make playoffs.Game was played Feb 6th during the regular seadon,not the playoffs.FAA lost to Sagemont in state quarterfinal playoff game and finished season at 21-6.Sagemont plays Cardinal Mooney of hometown Sarasota in State 3A semifinal.

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Thanks for the update, 32. Check out the you tube video of the game highlights. Watch #23, Julius Johnson, in a black uniform sink several threes and dunk with two handed. FAA lost by 1 point.

FAA loses a close one to Sagemont
 
Will be interesting to see whether or not they redshirt Julius next year. If he's ready, they could really use him at the #2 guard who can drain the three. Lots of roster congestion next year, but I say play the best players regardless of class.
 
Looks impressive, but hard to imagine him playing much as a frosh. We might have to wait a while before he takes off the warm-ups to see that Spider uniform - just given the guys ahead of him and Mooney's history with playing frosh.

He is obviously a shooting guard/wing player and ahead of him on that list are Trey Davis and ShawnDre. Not to mention Josh Jones has been seeing increased time in ANO's absence and has done well at times. Then you throw in Smithen and Fore and Diekvoss - that is 7 guys for 3 spots. You can count on Trey and ShawnDre starting. After that - I think the only way Julius sees some good minutes is by beating people out, and not sure that will happen with Mooney's history. His sophmore year might be more realistic - no Trey Davis, and we will need some more depth.
 
For UR in being a player for the top 3-4 every year in the A10 won't get accomplished by giving guys minutes based on fr-soph-jr-sr progression. Playing guys that give you the best chance to win must come first.

First off SDJ I see as PG only when on the court and really believe we'll see his greatest upside starting next year as that. Might be thinking too positive but if JuliusJ doesn't get 15-20 minutes a game next year I will be disappointed. I see Fore and Smithen as PGs for the most part but can play the 2 but that makes us smaller again in the backcourt defensively.

Hopefully JJones continues to get minutes and develops further in the offseason for next year so him and JuliusJ share the 2 spot which gives us a bigger presence. So by my scenario that gives UR 5 guys used for the guard rotation.

Up front you have TA, TJ, ANO, and counting on MW to handles those spots along with PF and CD possibly getting a few minutes. So where does that leave TD and DT? Unless God comes down and touches their shooting arms, their liabilities for the offense will continue no matter how much practice time they put in during the summer. And what they bring (less in my mind) on the defensive side doesn't make up for it.

Maybe Julius isn't what I think come November so of course Trey will get some SG minutes along with some SF time. If enough scoring from other players, not much of an issue except UR won't be as good as potentially they could be. I really don't see much time for DT at all unless injuries/foul trouble occurs in particular games. I root for DT and TD just as much as any other Spider with the objective of coming away with a W!
 
Just remember Mooneys recent defensive prowess and strength quotes about DT When it comes to next year. Based on what he said and his emphasis on D, and the fact DT will be a senior, I have a hard time believing we will see less of him. I do think we will be a much deeper team though if MW and some of the younger guys can step up.
 
Originally posted by SpiderTrap:
You can count on Trey and ShawnDre starting. After that - I think the only way Julius sees some good minutes is by beating people out, and not sure that will happen with Mooney's history. His sophmore year might be more realistic - no Trey Davis, and we will need some more depth.
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Why should we count on Trey starting? Because he so lit up the scoreboard with his play this year. I'm not picking on your Trap because I know you are restating CM's long standing history of giving deference to guys with seniority and guys who can play defense.

It is my hope that if there is 1 change made in the offseason, (because I don't think that change is going to be dismissing Mooney), is that someone is able to sit down with Chris and have a reasoned/rationale conversation about the importance of guys who can score and the importance of player development of our younger players.

If Julius is the player talked about on here and indeed our number 1 recruitment target for this year, he should be given every opportunity to compete for a starting position. Right now, I see a lot depth at the shooting guard position, I just don't see a lot of talent, particularly offensive talent at that position.

P.S. SDJ is our starting PG next year, mark that down. He is not playing the 2.
 
I think we see SDJ start at the point next year, with a liberal dosage of Fore giving him a break.

I believe we will see both JJ's get time at the 2, but I could see Johnson starting if he can shoot as advertised, and is physically mature and physically ready to play. Unless Smithen can show us more offensive confidence, he will struggle to get court time.

I really see Deikvoss as a 3, and I see most of the time at the 3 going to TD, and DT. Unless Diekvoss is a lights out 3 point shooter, he will have to wait his turn to see a lot of minutes.

I see the 4 and 5 minutes going to ANO, TJ, and some combination of TA and MW.

I think Freindshuh will be another one who will struggle to see much floor time next year.

We could see 8 guys who play around 25 minutes per game each.
 
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Originally posted by SpiderTrap:
You can count on Trey and ShawnDre starting. After that - I think the only way Julius sees some good minutes is by beating people out, and not sure that will happen with Mooney's history. His sophmore year might be more realistic - no Trey Davis, and we will need some more depth.
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Why should we count on Trey starting? Because he so lit up the scoreboard with his play this year. I'm not picking on your Trap because I know you are restating CM's long standing history of giving deference to guys with seniority and guys who can play defense.

It is my hope that if there is 1 change made in the offseason, (because I don't think that change is going to be dismissing Mooney), is that someone is able to sit down with Chris and have a reasoned/rationale conversation about the importance of guys who can score and the importance of player development of our younger players.

If Julius is the player talked about on here and indeed our number 1 recruitment target for this year, he should be given every opportunity to compete for a starting position. Right now, I see a lot depth at the shooting guard position, I just don't see a lot of talent, particularly offensive talent at that position.

P.S. SDJ is our starting PG next year, mark that down. He is not playing the 2.
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Yep to everything you said.

In addition, if it takes someone working with TJ on his "supposed needs" on defense, then that should be addressed. I'm not so sure that DT is the showstopper on defense as attributed as to justify = minutes with TJ. All things considered & on balance, who would you rather have on the court for 30 or so minutes? With Kendall gone next year, there's a void on offense, and the void needs to be filled. It would seem that an increase in TJ's minutes would be a necessity, but then again, there's that logic thing & that history thing which are both mountains to climb.

I don't care who is a freshman, soph, jr, or senior...we need to put the best & skilled position players on the floor.
 
Shawndre is a 1, not a 2. The only natural 2's we have are josh and I guess Kadeem, although I think he's more of a combo guard.

I think that spot is pretty open to competition unless CM continues to play trey at that spot which means we don't have a third three point threat in that scenario.

I'd expect Julius to see some time if his defense is decent.
 
I could see this dude averaging at least 15- 20 mpg as a freshman assuming he can catch up on defense. Maybe not start right away but he'll play the most minutes as a freshman since Kendall did.
 
Playing guys that give you the best chance to win must come first.

Could not agree more with this statement.

Based on the Coach's entrenched belief system I will be SHOCKED if Deion Taylor and Trey Davis play even 1-minute less than they have this year. In fact, I think it highly likely that the Coach decides to rely on them even more heavily in their senior seasons. Time will tell.

If past patterns hold true, and barring injury, I see very little playing time next season for Marshall Wood, and Chandler Diekvoss regardless of their ability and regardless of team needs. Paul Friendshue will almost never hit the floor.

Shawndre should be the point guard, likely backed up by Fore. Challenge here for this Coach's mindset is that Fore will be a freshman. Kadeem Smithen will most likely see limited to almost no time again.

Josh Jones, and Julius Jones scrapping for time behind Trey Davis. I know, no-one besides Chris Mooney sees Trey Davis as a shooting guard, but I would bet money on this being his choice again. Davis is playing major minutes at guard this season, there is no reason to believe that will change.

Like you, I am hoping that Coach Mooney plays a varied and deep rotation using whichever combination of players can make the team the strongest and help them win. I don't think it wise to hold our breath waiting on Mooney to change his way of doing business.

Hope that he proves me wrong.
 
Mooney plays the people he thinks gives us the best chance to win. New players get playing time when Mooney thinks they are the best option. TJ, K0, ANO are all players who all played ~20 minutes per game their first (non-redshirt) years.

If Mooney thinks Marshall Wood, Diekvoss, or Friendshuh will be better options than TD or DT then they will play.
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Mooney has shown some willingness to adjust his starters...you need only look at this year to see he moved TJ to start over Alonzo.

Unfortunately he benched the wrong guy.

It's generally defense first in his system, so if either of the JJs shows defensive promise and better offensive contribution, they'll play.
 
I would hope that Wood is ready to play some meaningful minutes next year. Otherwise, we wasted three years of a scholarship on a guy who will only play one meaningful year. That would be stupid.

So assuming that he is ready to give us some good minutes, they pretty much have to come from those currently being filled by DT, and/or possibly TD. That's how their minutes would decrease. Frankly, if this doesn't happen, it means we missed on Wood. Again.
 
really hoping Johnson is able to come in and get significant playing time...I believe Coach Mooney is smart enough to play the guys who give us the best chance to win, even if they are a true freshman...

if Johnson is red shirted, or not good enough to get significant playing time, we have failed again at recruiting an A-10 caliber freshman player...with only one scholarship it seems we would be able to get someone who could contribute right away...

the inability to recruit guys that can contribute right away has led to the red shirting, the lack of quality depth, short rotations, and the mediocre results of the last three years and maybe this year....

lets all hope Julius is ready to make a significant contribution next year...

go Julius!

Go Spiders!

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Mojo, your post ignores I juries. Last year we lost potential first team a10 player to injury and another to discipline. This year we have lost ano and potential backups in at least one freshman.

Obviously injury and depth are not mutually exclusive, but I think the last two years are as much bad luck as having players who aren't quite ready.
 
We decided to redshirt 2 freshman this year in addition to a transfer sitting out. That is a quarter of the roster that can't step on the court before the season begins. That was a conscious decision depth decision. I guess you can role the dice and say well, we aren't going to have injuries this year. How many teams do you make it through the year without any injuries? I don't know many.

And if anything, CM should have learned last year that things happen that you can't control during the season. Yes, there is bad luck but there is also poor planning. We are victims of both.
 
Originally posted by fan2011:
Mooney plays the people he thinks gives us the best chance to win. New players get playing time when Mooney thinks they are the best option. TJ, K0, ANO are all players who all played ~20 minutes per game their first (non-redshirt) years.

If Mooney thinks Marshall Wood, Diekvoss, or Friendshuh will be better options than TD or DT then they will play.

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Serious question. How do you know if some of the newer players gives us a better chance to win, if they are never given the opportunity to show it in a game?

I look at Josh Jones when he gets extended minutes in a game and think hmmm, this kid can play a little, but he so rarely gets extended minutes it is tough to know for sure.
 
Originally posted by 97spiderfan:

We decided to redshirt 2 freshman this year in addition to a transfer sitting out. That is a quarter of the roster that can't step on the court before the season begins. That was a conscious decision depth decision. I guess you can role the dice and say well, we aren't going to have injuries this year. How many teams do you make it through the year without any injuries? I don't know many.

And if anything, CM should have learned last year that things happen that you can't control during the season. Yes, there is bad luck but there is also poor planning. We are victims of both.
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Correct. We need to get to the point where we go 10 deep. I realize the 9th & 10th in may not = the first couple off the bench, but if needed they're there to spell regulars & give everyone a few minutes of rest.

Things happen. It's the nature of the game. We've played a short bench two years in a row.
 
Some random next year thoughts:

1. Fore - If he comes back 100% healthy, seems like he is a big contributor and though not huge, would bring a speed/size combo similar to Ced. Really think he could have been a 15 minute/game guy this year and been a good perimeter defender. I believe he is still in a boot. Seems like a long time. I hope the injury is not as bad as it seems and he can be back to full speed in the spring or summer.

2. Smithen - Still have high hopes for this guy. Liked the skill level, quickness and length that I saw on his h.s. highlights video. I am hopeful that with another year of strength and conditioning and more opportunity he shines. I see him as a combo guard.

3. Josh - Put together some decent games for us once he has had the opportunity. Seems to be a "wing", not quite a pure shooting guard or a small forward.

4. Wood as the x factor? He has a ton of athletic ability and talent - this will be his fourth year post high school. Can he put it together quickly here? Can he play the 3?

Front Court - Looks crowded, but I like that - let the best guys play. Not sure if the big lineup is viable, unless Wood can be the 3. I like Terry Allen as more of a 4 (FEED HIM) that can pull his defender away from the hoop on occasion. Like what I have seen from TJ and ANO has had a good year. If Wood is more of a 4, will be interesting to see who's minutes decline.

5. Shawndre - Has all the skills. Did not live up to the hype early in the season, but now playing very well. Need him to be that consistent force next year at PG. I see Fore as a nice change of pace to Shawndre and playing beside him with SDJ more of a shooter at times.

6. Would hope that Woods and Julius Johson both play next year, agree that we should be bringing in guys that are good enough to pl
 
Good thoughts 23. I have heard that Wood can play the 3, so I don't see his minutes conflicting with TJ, ANO, or Terry. We all know or at least hope we know where Woods minutes will becoming from.
 
The question will be whether we need a longer bench if we're actually pressing more at times and also with SDJ at point we seem to run a quicker pace. Would really like to see us do both of these even more, since our O seems to click better that way. And definitely need to get the young guns some kind of minutes, not only to rest guys, but to build their confidence. Yes, they'll make mistakes like the one JJ made on Sat, but they have to learn and develop in games. Practice just isn't the same, as evidenced by our redshirt guys still needing to make a big jump from 1st playing season to their 2nd.
 
If Wood is a 3, I think that is ideal. I like the thought of TJ, ANO and Terry holding down the 4/5 rotation. All are very good at certain things and compliment each other.

I still say send Deion off to Charlottesville to work with Justin Anderson on shooting all summer.
 
IMO the strength of next years team will come from TA, TJ, and ANO. Need to find a way to maximize their minutes. Great if Wood can play the 3 and eat into DT and possibly TD minutes. We need competition at that spot. We will be a veteran and deeper team than this year, can we capitalize?
 
imo, Wood is the perfect compliment to TA. similar in size and athleticism, but Wood will be more of the outside/in guy while TA is the inside/out guy. those two with Cline in the high post ... perfect. when ANO is in, I think I'd prefer him low post with TA or Cline high. and there's no way DT and Trey don't play a lot. they're clearly not shooters, but they're very valuable.

we always love the new unknown guy. everyone does. I have doubts that Julius as a freshman will be as good defensively as the returning guys, and there are a lot of them. but yeah, if he comes in and is our best shooter/scorer, then CM will have to find time for him. it's a really deep roster, though. some think we can't be better losing Kendall. I think we'll have a deeper and more talented team. but deeper doesn't mean much. we can only really play 8 or 9. some really good ballplayers will have to watch and get their time in practice. but competition for time early on will be intense.
 
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