Way too early bracketolgy predictions are coming out; looks like the A10 may be a one bid league:
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/bracketology/
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/bracketology/
Way too early bracketology
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If Sherod made one more shot down the stretch against SBU in the conference tournament the A10 would have likely been a one bid league last year too! There can be a very fine line between one bid and three. Either way, the A10 has received multiple bids since 2006, and a three bid conference for over a decade. I would bet on multiple bids again this next year.
Well, SBU would likely have been left out after a loss to us, we would have been a very bad loss. Then we would have played Davidson, and since we seemed to have their number it is likely we would have won against them as well. We would probably lose to URI in the finals, and only URI would have received a bid. Pure speculation, but not an absurd scenario if we had made one or two more baskets at the end of the SBU game, it was a one possession game for 70 of the final 80 seconds.
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Yes, and if we sleep in a Holiday Inn we'd all probably dance in the streets and drink many Stolyschnayas
I am so tired of the "what if" scenario. Great teams find ways to win. We lost the game plain and simple to St.Bonaventure. It's time to move on. However, we continue to dwell on the past. Davidson won the A-10 title its time we accept we weren't A-10 champs last year.
I am confused by this comment. The scenario above was just meant to demonstrate that the just two days before selection Sunday, the A10 could have received anywhere from 1 to 3 bids. Most seasons the A10 has mutliple bids locked up before the A10 tournament starts, but that was not the case this past year. Luckily, the best case scenario happened and the A10 got 3 bids, but that doesn't change the fact that late in the season the A10 was in a much weaker position than it usually is. Next year the A10 will likely be weak again, which is why only 1 bid is predicted in the link.
Late in the season, the Bonnies were pretty much a lock (RPI in the 20s and plenty of nice Top 100 wins) as was Rhody. Two bids were almost a certainty before the A10 tourney. Davidson stole a third bid.
The fact that the committee screwed Bonny on their seeding (first four) doesn’t change the fact that the A10 essentially had two locks pre-A10 tourney.
The fact that the committee screwed Bonny on their seeding (first four) doesn’t change the fact that the A10 essentially had two locks pre-A10 tourney.
The Bonnies were one of the last 4 in and had to play a play-in-game. They were not a lock, they just barely got in, and a loss to a 12 win team could have certainly cost them a bid.
Doubtful. Pretty much an NCAA lock after a stellar regular season. RPI 24, 24-7 record, 8 Top 100 wins, several Top 60 wins (Rhody, Syr, Md, Vermont, Buffalo). Several of those road/neutral. In easy.
Even with a first round loss, 24-8, RPI 30 would have made it.
A10 was getting two bids minimum last season. We lucked out and got three.
Even with a first round loss, 24-8, RPI 30 would have made it.
A10 was getting two bids minimum last season. We lucked out and got three.
Of this there can be little doubt. 2 were locks for sure and both more than worthy of bids. OK, so Bonnies got play-in. That's still an 11 seed game.
He saying he is sick and tired of the word "if" when it comes to our program. "If" Sherod hits one more shot, "if" Ced doesn't get hurt, "if" we just hit that FT. If, if, if, if. That is all our program has been for the past 7 years, a bunch of ifs.
Here is the Reality of that game: St. Bonnie was a really good team, they didn't rely upon "ifs", they beat us straight up because they were good and didn't fold under pressure.
Losing teams, losing programs, losing cultures, "if" is one of the most oft use favorite words. We use it a ton with our program.
you get that 2011 wasn't talking about or making excuses for our program, right?
just giving a scenario.
as he explained.
That is exactly why I am confused. The comment wasn't about how our program was close to making the tournament at all, or how close we were to being a good team or having a good season, it was about how close the A10 was to 1 bid.
Bona & URI won a game and Davidson gets $ for making it that we no longer see since its been seven seasons since we've danced. So pretty well if we're benchmarking against UR.
I get the broader context of your argument about St. Bonnie and the tournament.
I think and Go can confirm this or not confirm, this it was you started your original posts saying "If Sherod makes one more shot". Anyone who follows this program for the past 7 years knows that Sherod is not making that shot and that we were never going to beat St. Bonaventure in the A-10 tournament because that is what we always do. We always seem to choke at the big moment during the big game. Particularly in the A-10 tournament. When is the last time we advanced past the Quarterfinals (2011, I think).
It is probably the most frustrating hallmarks of Mooney's tenure over the past 7 years.
I am more interested with winning basketball games then to compete. I could careless about the excuses or "if" we played Davidson we would have made the tournament. There aren't any guarantees in basketball. Usually the best team finds a way to win. You play to win not to be competitive.
I really don't think you understand what I am trying to say. No where did I say we would have made the tournament in the above scenario, or even the NIT, or even that these theoretical wins would have made our season acceptable (they wouldn't have), or that we were close to being a good team, or that we should feel good about the team because we were close to winning the game (we shouldn't). I am saying that the A10 was close to being a 1 bid conference last year. That is all.
Also, the idea that 'the best team always finds a way to win' is really dumb. The better team loses ALL THE TIME in sports, if they didn't sports would be incredibly boring. I am afraid you are going to misinterpret this as me saying we were a good team last year despite losing a ton of games. I am not saying that at all, we were unacceptably bad. Still, the better team loses very often in sports.
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I really don't think a neutral court loss to UR would have pushed St. Bonaventure out. They closed their season with 12 straight wins, including wins against the #1, #3, and #4 teams in the conference.
Yes, it would have been a bad loss, but wacky stuff happens in tournaments, and they would have had to move the Bonnies down 4 slots further than they already did with the loss to Davidson.
Yes, it would have been a bad loss, but wacky stuff happens in tournaments, and they would have had to move the Bonnies down 4 slots further than they already did with the loss to Davidson.
Good point. Bonnies would definitely have been out if they lost to us and Davidson in the Conference Tourney...
Ha! You know what I meant. The loss to Davidson probably moved them down the board x spots. A loss to us wouldn't have moved them down x+4.
All that was needed was x+1 for them to be left out. Would a loss to us move them one spot lower than a loss to Davidson? It doesn't seem out of the question to me.
St. Bonaventure was ahead of Arizona State and Syracuse in the seedings put out by the committee. That's 2. Whichever team Davidson bumped (Baylor?) is #3. #4 would be the next team that moved ahead of St. Bonaventure.
Has to be one of the worst threads ever. Glad I could contribute.
I said "usually" which means more than likely the best team wins. Anyways, its time to move to better things. Hopefully winning 15 games this year can happen.
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