Very telling

[I-M-UR]

go and look up notable graduates from University of Richmond. The vast majority of them are athletes. Some like Leland are athlete and have success in some other endeavor. The majority of those are football players. The academic elites may not like it but sports brings notability* to the school more than any other endeavor.

* thanks for the edit

 

[SFspidur]

notoriety

 

[Ulla1]

Thanks, SF. OSC

no·to·ri·e·ty
ˌnōdəˈrīədē/
noun

1. the state of being famous or well known for some bad quality or deed.
   "the song has gained some notoriety in the press"
   synonyms: infamy, disrepute, ill repute, bad name, dishonor, discredit;
   datedill fame
   "his undeserved notoriety"

 

[urfan1]

I believe he meant recognition, that's the way I took it in the context he was writing

 

[I-M-UR]

Thanks, SF. OSC

no·to·ri·e·ty
ˌnōdəˈrīədē/
noun

1. the state of being famous or well known for some bad quality or deed.
   "the song has gained some notoriety in the press"
   synonyms: infamy, disrepute, ill repute, bad name, dishonor, discredit;
   datedill fame
   "his undeserved notoriety"

you're correct I've miss used it. I assume I thought it was a variation off notable.

 

[urmite]

It is funny how popculture doesn't seem to see notoriety as a negative but often see notorious that way.

 

[urmite]

you're correct I've miss used it. I assume I thought it was a variation off notable.

It does seem to based on the term for "information" which would seem to mean fame. However it appears the vast majority of ancient fame was through indictment.

 

[iSpider]

Glad to see that his board is taking note of such important things as nuance with respect to word usage. Seriously.
On the downside, I am sure that Spinner will be devastated by this trend.

 

[I-M-UR]

I gladly take comments/critiques about my wording when needed, you're not going to hurt my feelings. The point is; my sense is that Academics look down on athletics as a waste of resources, beneath their highbrow taste. But to the large part of the country it's how we are have gotten the most publicity, it is the face of the University. Well worth the investment to make is successful. We are UR, we achieve and succeed.

 

[The Vault]

Feel like notorious and notoriety both have definitions with a little more ambiguity than you suggest SF. Both mean well known especially for bad reasons but feel like their definitions don't explicitly rule out being simply well known (as some people use them). That said when I read those words I assume well known via bad ways, and that's also the way I use them.

notorious

1. generally known and talked of; especially : widely and unfavorably known

Although "notorious" can be a synonym of "famous," meaning simply "widely known," it long ago developed the additional implication of someone or something unpleasant or undesirable.

Definition of notoriety
plural
notorieties

1. 1: the quality or state of being notorious
   
   
2. a notorious person
   

Examples of notoriety in a sentence

1. His comment about the President has given him a notoriety that he enjoys very much.
   

*MerriamWebster website via bad cut and pasting.

 

[iSpider]

I gladly take comments/critiques about my wording when needed, you're not going to hurt my feelings. The point is; my sense is that Academics look down on athletics as a waste of resources, beneath their highbrow taste. But to the large part of the country it's how we are have gotten the most publicity, it is the face of the University. Well worth the investment to make is successful. We are UR, we achieve and succeed.

Isn't that how it works as most universities who take any pride in their academic standing? I agree with your conclusion, but I accept that it is a battle not unique to UR and one we need will need to keep on fighting.