Richmond is an attractive coaching opportunity! Ask Head Coaches.......Dave Clawson, Mike London, Russ Huesman......not to mention many assistants who are on the move!
UR is a highly respected coaching opportunity
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We'll get a HC thats for sure because there are only so many opportunities etc. but the job will be significantly less highly respected than were we seeking to fill an opening with a different reason than " our coach left for an in conference rival that we have been better than for the last 5+ years because he thinks that school is more committed to winning than the currently losing school he is going too.
I am very disappointed he is leaving. I am not however ready to hit the Chicken Little circuit and declare the sky to be falling. We have a lot of talent coming back and I will be there on Saturday's to support them. I imagine they have to be more disappointed than I am. I believe they deserve our support. I also believe we can attract a good coach. The issues pointed out previously on the boards were here when we hired Clawson and Rocco. This is a great opportunity to chance to fix those issues and move forward. IMHO.
I actually doubt that it significantly depresses the market to the extent you are stating. First, head coaching jobs don't grow on trees. Second, it's a sizeable assumption to say that UR doesn't in fact support football, it just happens that the current HC doesn't feel it support it to the extent he wants; that's very different than not being supportive. Last, and perhaps most importantly, UR is a nice school with good facilities and a reasonably nice tradition...there's a lot of stuff there to be interested in.
Can you imagine what recruiting will be like when two of our in conference opponents can claim we didn't think our program was important enough to keep our own winning coaches. What indication do you have as to what the issues are or are we even going to fix them? One thing is for sure Jim Miller as AD was not simply the place holder we have now. Sure losing winning coaches is bad but in every other case it was because of a move up.... Beilien, Clawson, etc. this is a coach taking a lateral move in our conference. As I said before UR does not buy out contracts so if we make a bad pick we live with the result for 4 to 5 years.
I don't disagree with you and I don't mean to harp on the negative, but let's not gloss over the fact that Miller hired Latrell Scott, which set our program back several years in the end. Yes, Scott was responsible himself for the actions that contributed to that, but there was a background there that we probably should have been more cognizant of. I would suspect that whatever the fallout is from losing Rocco, we'll be more competitive quicker with the new guy than we were after the Scott debacle.
Plus Rocco's comments are now out in the open so other prospective coaches know about them. I'm sure like the rest of us can read between the lines and know that they might not have the administrative support and backing here that they may think and may also have to work with an AD, who might be a &^%$
UR is a great place and we all know it, but for a man who has been here 5 years turning the program around and taking us to the playoffs 3 straight years, something is wrong to go on a lateral move. The something has to be,long promised new locker and weight rooms. Seriously, if you haven't seen them , they are no better than my public high schools. Further, missing a backup quarterback due to XXXXX administrative issues is bad enough, but the word is the Gill hasn't attended to his job and certainly wouldn't attend to this issue. I say we have a great coach but may have many issues at AD. Let's hope the "Crutch" sides with the right man and we keep him.
When has any school hired a replacement coach and not thought it was a good hire and success would follow quickly? Keeping a good coach is a lot more efficient and cost effective than taking a chance on a new hire. No School in FCS or the CAA hired a coach expecting him to just be ok. Again I remind you UR doesn't buy out contracts, Scott saved us a fortune and four miserable years by misbehaving.
I want to know what the issues are and what, if anything the school is going to do to fix it. That is the biggest issue. If the school doesn't open up about what went on every coaching candidate worth pursuing is going to be wondering the same thing, what is the vision at Richmond, what are (or hopefully were) the issues that led Rocco to take a lateral move and what's the plan to fix them.
Would you invest (donate) money in anything if you thought it had chronic management problems that weren't being fixed.
Rocco did us no favors by making those comments before he leaves. He pretty much gave us the old Dutch Oven before getting out of bed and walking out the door.
How about the people who donated money for the new stadium. That was suppose to be one of the necessities to build a top program and draw the students. Now if the administration isn't going to follow through and continue investing in the program let's get those stadium refunds in the mail.
It opened people's eyes as to what was going on and for which some of us had already known for sometime.
Personally,I like Danny's openness and frankness and appreciate people who bust their ass day-in-and-day-out no matter what their profession especially when there are obvious obstacles in their way to attain continued success.
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I understand that, 32, and sort of appreciate it... Nevertheless, I just generally think it's best to leave any job on a high note. This was not a high note. I don't feel like there are any winners in this one.
This will all be very interesting when Rocco signs a 6-year extension later today.
Come on 05, I used an asterick. Our AD could have been a duck, a deck, or maybe even a dock.
Excellent use of urban dictionary on here. Now, if you would have said Cleveland Steamer or the ole Dirty Sanchez that might have been a bit over the top.
Seriously it can't end today - it needs to be dragged out longer - it is way too entertaining....................................
I'm not sure that simply 'liking' this post accurately shared my amusement by it. Kudos.
Bottom line is recruits, alums, the community, etc. respond to ACTION. If we get a good replacement HC and start actually taking action to fix the locker room, weight room, gear issues, etc then the program will be fine. IF on the other hand the AD goes silent in the next 6 months, this will have a drastic long-term effect on the football program and AD in general for years to come.
The issues have been discussed on this board. I have no idea what the fix will be except they are now out in the light of day and that generally gets things resolved. I do believe with as much success as UR has had at the FCS level there will be good coaches that will want the job. UR has a lot to offer to a student athlete. Otherwise we would never have gotten the Brian Browns of the world to come here to begin with. In the end I believe this program is bigger than ANY one coach.
I appreciate all that coach did while he was here. Leaving how he is appearing to at this moment is not what I would consider a class move. This has been played out way too much in public and has reflected poorly on both the school and himself.
And if he hadn't a whole lot of this stuff would have stayed hidden. I don't care where he goes, I respect him for bringing the Gill situation to more people's attention. And yes LNK I know stuff and no WebSpinner and Ricky I'm not going to tell you here. In a tailgate lot maybe but not here.
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But Mac, it's going to be another 10 months before we tailgate again! By then I will have long forgotten about this whole conversation...
LKNspoder is correct in that Richmond is a good opportunity. For reasons different that many think but it's a good job. As to Rocco, he is an excellent coach that got the program out of the Latrell Scott mess.
I think this year may have been his best coaching job. He took a team deep in the playoffs that had 18 season ending injuries and 3 were to all-Americans. The only way you overcome that is with depth and depth comes 100% from good coaching. It starts with good recruiting, then good physical development off the field, and finally good development teaching the system in practice. Overcoming these injuries is the measuring stick of coaching ability. I would hate to see Rocco leave but his ability to coach can't be disputed.
I think this year may have been his best coaching job. He took a team deep in the playoffs that had 18 season ending injuries and 3 were to all-Americans. The only way you overcome that is with depth and depth comes 100% from good coaching. It starts with good recruiting, then good physical development off the field, and finally good development teaching the system in practice. Overcoming these injuries is the measuring stick of coaching ability. I would hate to see Rocco leave but his ability to coach can't be disputed.
Our program is in far better shape than it was post-London/Scott/Lineburg. It is comparable to
Nailed it. Depth, and more depth.
That's what we lacked '10-'11-'12, even with more FBS transfers than usual.
Danny has restocked the pond.
Nailed it. Depth, and more depth.
That's what we lacked '10-'11-'12, even with more FBS transfers than usual.
Danny has restocked the pond.
The coach is obviously not the problem it's the administration and they are still with us. Thanks to Not1 and others it's not hard to figure out who is responsible for this mess..... and they need to go. OR nobody we want will want this job. As I've said, hiring a coach is a crap shoot in the best of conditions, hiring one after your current coach takes a lateral position in your own conference makes it so much worse. Plus we don't buy out contracts so whomever we get we're stuck with for 4 to 5 years.
Plus can you imagine; as a candidate for the UR job what's the first phone call you make? and what are you going to hear?
IMHO, Garrett's resume is far more impressive than the resume of Huesman. OSC
Garrett
http://www.richmondspiders.com//ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=210672488&DB_OEM_ID=26800 John Garrett Bio
Huesman
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russ_Huesman
Garrett
http://www.richmondspiders.com//ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=210672488&DB_OEM_ID=26800 John Garrett Bio
Huesman
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russ_Huesman
