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Tonight was a tough loss. I can accept that and look for the future but I have had it with our season ticket holders who are decent donors and give their tickets when they can't attend to a fan of our opponent. I have had it happen numerous times in both football and basketball. They just don't get it. It affects our teams. They hear and see it. I have had both a football player and numerous basketball players comment to me on this. To anyone who has done that, you can kiss my grits!!!!
 
Tonight was a tough loss. I can accept that and look for the future but I have had it with our season ticket holders who are decent donors and give their tickets when they can't attend to a fan of our opponent. I have had it happen numerous times in both football and basketball. They just don't get it. It affects our teams. They hear and see it. I have had both a football player and numerous basketball players comment to me on this. To anyone who has done that, you can kiss my grits!!!!
They buy, they don't show. We are who we are
 
Tonight was a tough loss. I can accept that and look for the future but I have had it with our season ticket holders who are decent donors and give their tickets when they can't attend to a fan of our opponent. I have had it happen numerous times in both football and basketball. They just don't get it. It affects our teams. They hear and see it. I have had both a football player and numerous basketball players comment to me on this. To anyone who has done that, you can kiss my grits!!!!
I have had VCU idiots behind me or beside me every time we play them for years.
 
Our season ticket holders and defense are similar, they both are soft. Are season
tickets given automatically due to size of donation? I would hope that people buy
because they want to be in attendance, but obviously not the case.
 
I'd like to understand for all those criticizing season ticket holders to explain what they are hoping to accomplish with their criticism. Are you asking these loyal supporters to stop donating money? Are you willing to buy their tickets?

Clearly you have some easy solutions to always have a full house of actively cheering UR fans. Please share with the rest of us.
 
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Easy solution that I have used on occasion. Give your tickets to friends who are not fans of the opponent. I compliment them on being donors and season ticket holders, just have some consideration for our teams. Maybe something is wrong with my thinking but I cannot understand why this is not understood.
 
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I will and have throw tickets in the trash before giving them to an opposing fan.

I think part of season ticket rights should not only be contributions but attendence.
 
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I'd like to understand for all those criticizing season ticket holders to explain what they are hoping to accomplish with their criticism. Are you asking these loyal supporters to stop donating money? Are you willing to buy their tickets?

Clearly you have some easy solutions to always have a full house of actively cheering UR fans. Please share with the rest of us.
DT I am a donor but due to living out of state I do not get season tickets.
But when living in Richmond, I never missed a revenue sport game. I don't understand that if it is announced sold out, yet 1/3 of seats seem empty. Yes there are no shows, but do you expect that many?
I don't, not to this degree and how constantly this occurs.
 
I guess my point is what we do want? On one hand we tell people not to sell their tickets, on the other hand we tell them not to have empty seats.

Personally - I go to nearly every football game but admittedly am not in my seat for a decent portion of the game. We have young kids and the kids area is a great spot, especially with moving the stands. Now - you could look around the stands and say the seats are empty at a certain moment but we're there.

For any games we can't make I'm very particular who I give my tickets to. The year the new stadium opened I sold my tickets to another fan on this site. The next week the season ticket holders around me told me just how obnoxious the people were that had the tickets. Out of respect for my follow season ticket holders - I will let seats go empty rather than sell them if I can't find people I know well to take them. That's my choice and respect that others may disagree.

I'd place some blame at the ticket office for constantly announcing sell outs and pushing away the casual fan. In addition, the end zone areas are marketed to season ticket holders - if people sit there what happens to their regular seats? I suspect they sit empty and those people that have shelled out even more money (and came to the game) are getting criticized here.

As to a solution - could we sell slightly discounted general admission tickets to 4 sections? Oversell them by 100% and let overflow be around the track. There's a ton of space. If we sell 10,000 tickets to a 8,700 stadium you'd think we'd be fine. There would always be empty seats in the season ticket hold sections but seems like we'd have more of a buzz inside the stadium. Other solution to have more folks inside the stadium at kickoff is to close the lots 30 minutes early - but I imagine that would be hugely unpopular and drive away fans.
 
When people went to city stadium, they went for a football game it was a dump, but easily accessible for everyone in the metro area. Those fans were into it. The students that did care attended and stayed the whole game normally because they were miles from their dorms.

There's so many amenities/distractions at the Rob not to mention a track to walk around. So many kids there that play around so leaves more empty seats. I feel that I'm at a minor league baseball game a lot of the time.

We needed to get on campus, but the moment we did it changed the demographics of the fan base as well as the atmosphere. Having to make all the concessions to City of Richmond to get it built didn't help either.
 
Understand the sentiment but students were leaving city stadium in droves at halftime or earlier when I was a student in the late 90s too.
 
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No question that the crowds were better at the Big House. I like the standing room ticket idea, for sure, but I also don't know if there's a fire code issue with doing that. Also not sure how the university could force season ticket holders to do anything specific with their tickets if they can't use them.

In general, sure, don't sell your tickets to the opposition. But many of us have friends or family members who went to an opposing school. I wouldn't expect anyone to deny them tickets.
 
The folks in the skyboxes and now 2 end zone hospitality areas, are all required to have seat tickets. Then you have all the kids in the fun zone with their parents and grandparents (my wife) who also have seat tickets. These may add up to be several hundred people. When you have 20,000+ in the stadium, 300-400 people who aren't in their seats is no big deal. But when your stadium only holds 8,000, it becomes very noticeable.

I am all over SRO ticket sales, and if we have to announce (brag about) sellouts, do it AFTER THE GAME, not before and discourage people from coming.
 
Understand the sentiment but students were leaving city stadium in droves at halftime or earlier when I was a student in the late 90s too.
Agreed. We were also not nearly as good in the 90s though. I was talking more around the Clawson-London era when we were around as competitive as we are now, and the gameday experiences are very different despite similar levels of success.
 
Being a small private school with a tiny fan base (mostly elderly at that) will always put us behind the huge "tax sucking" state schools with their largely young Virginian fan base. It is what it is.

Take a look around at the football games. I see loads of kids and a good amount of younger adults. I'm curious, do you actually attend the games?
 
Look around the stadium and even when it is "sold out" at least 25% of the seats are vacant. I get that some of those folks are in the boxes, kid zone, etc. You can sugar coat it, but it still is a very poor optic for the University and our football program.

As to FRS, he sometimes annoys me too...so do others, but he is a Spider and it seems we need all of those we can muster based on what I see looking around the Rob.
 
I'd like to understand for all those criticizing season ticket holders to explain what they are hoping to accomplish with their criticism. Are you asking these loyal supporters to stop donating money? Are you willing to buy their tickets?

Clearly you have some easy solutions to always have a full house of actively cheering UR fans. Please share with the rest of us.

Two things if you don't plan on going to games give your tickets back to the school soon enough so they can do something with them. Secondly, we need to have a big push for Richmond area non alumni but football fans. The environment is great, it doesn't require hours of drive time to and from, You have a reasonable walk to the stadium, Tail gate spots are readily available, the quality of football is good, and after the game be out of the parking lot in 20 minutes.

the grey hair group, which I am a part of, I think is more of a result of the large number of out of state students we take and the reality that careers require more willingness to move than they used to.
 
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Ironic that you should mention this (and I actually agree with you). Just this weekend I found my wife's 1971graduation program from UR. Easily 60%-70% listed were Virginia residents.
 
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