Salaries

[Ulla1]

Probably just my ignorance here, but both Brian And David signed similar contracts with the Cowboys and Patriots, respectively. Is this standard for undrafted rookies? Not a bad gig if you can get it.

Brian Brown contract with Cowboys - 5/15/2017: Signed a three-year, $1.66 million contract. 2017: $465,000, 2018: $555,000, 2019: $645,000, 2020: Free Agent

David Jones contract with Patriots -
5/6/2017: 5/6/2017: Signed a three-year, $1.66 million contract. 2017: $465,000, 2018: $555,000, 2019: $645,000, 2020: Free Agent

 

[SFspidur]

Yes, those are the regular season salary minimums for all NFL players. Little if any is guaranteed though, so the teams are off the hook for those salaries if they don't make the 53-man roster. Jones is only guaranteed $7,500, and there's nothing listed for Brown.

Players are paid separate per diems for offseason workouts, minicamps, and training camp...generally ~$150-200 per day.

 

[Ulla1]

SF, so is Kerry Wynn guaranteed his $1.797 million this year?
https://www.google.com/amp/giantswi...ck-kerry-wynn-apply-1-797-million-tender/amp/

 

[SFspidur]

Looks like no guarantee on Kerry's contract.

 

[GKiller]

SF is correct not guaranteed. In general most NFL base salaries are not guaranteed. You are paid week to week. There are exceptions of course. If you're vested as a vet (meaning you've accrued certain # of years playing & I'm not sure what that is now) and you make the team you are then guaranteed year salary if cut. Wynn hasn't hit that. Or the team could have guaranteed it as part of their negotiation, but not common, and Wynn had no leverage as a restricted free agent to get one. Really just signing bonuses are guaranteed. If Wynn was hurt and put on IR he would get his full salary. Wynn has been very productive, you never know but he should have set spot on roster anyway and he's at a good cap hit for the team. Best of both worlds for giants right now. But Wynn could be looking at nice new contract next year w guaranteed signing bonus $ if he keeps it up.

 

[SFspidur]

I wouldn't be so sure about his roster status. After a decent 2015, he slipped behind Okwara last season. He only took 10% of available snaps on defense last year, down from 50% in 2015.

 

[United_In_Red]

The NFL is a cut throat business. The Giants placed that tender on Kerry knowing that likely no team would offer higher than that salary (as a restricted free agent the Giants can match any team's offer, so theoretically it would have to be higher than the tender offer).

Unfortunately, since no money was guaranteed, a situation could play out where the Giants keep Kerry until the last cut of training camp, then cut him. They would do this knowing its likely too late for Kerry to go learn an entire new playbook since training camp would be over at that point. If Kerry went unclaimed off waivers, they would be able to sign him back to a minimum salary.

It's interesting how teams can manipulate salaries and use "fringe players" to save money against the cap. Obviously the hope is that it does not play out like this, but Kerry has had a solid career thus far and will have opportunities regardless.

 

[GKiller]

I wouldn't be so sure about his roster status. After a decent 2015, he slipped behind Okwara last season. He only took 10% of available snaps on defense last year, down from 50% in 2015.

Shoot, didn't realize that. Thx SF. Must have been thinking 2015 & assumed upward trend continued. Obviously I don't follow the Giants and bitter beer Eli too well. But good luck to Kerry.

 

[AnnapSpider]

Read a blurb just today that the players are getting annoyed with the current
contract, especially when they see what the NBA players are taking home.
As "they" say, stand by.

 

[WebSpinner]

the nflpa hired a new guy a couple of years ago, a DC lawyer and he is a really great guy but the union did not get a good deal last time out even with DeMaurice at the helm. teams have to be judicious with their rosters and their payrolls, a pretty large number of players, injuries and the like but unlike the other sports, they do not do guarantees on many contracts and when they do, not nearly the money that we see in stories. a qb might sign for $70 million over 5 years but only $26 of that might be guaranteed, a nice sum but not $70 million. general managers earn their money keeping up with the salary cap while attempting to give the coaches a competitive team on the field. to me, knowing which players to retain is just as important as figuring out which players to draft or sign as free agents. also, keep in mind that when the final cut takes place, does not mean that those players remaining have made the squad, lot of transactions take place with teams picking up cut from other teams.

 

[DTSpider]

Realistically players will have to strike and give up checks. Easy to say, hard to do. Average career is 3 years, hard to ask a guy to give up half a year or a year when that's 15-33% of his lifetime earnings. Longer NBA and MLB careers made it easier for them. not saying it won't happen just that it's one reason why the NFL seems to have worse deals than other sports.

 

[WebSpinner]

strikes and sports are the pits. even though fans understand to some degree, they still cannot digest high paid workers not working. they also have perks, retirements and other things which the normal person will never see. think that both sides will make some concessions and the players will get some of what they want. the prez of the nflpa lives here in houston and is on the local radio shows quite a bit talking football and union.