Noah
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Noah has to be wondering: I was a walk-on bit part at Yale, and all of a sudden I come to Richmond and I'm treated like the second coming.
He was the 8th in minutes on a .500 Ivy league team last year and we are debating whether he is starting level material for an A-10 program. Yep, that is where we are.
He was the 8th in minutes on a .500 Ivy league team last year and we are debating whether he is starting level material for an A-10 program. Yep, that is where we are.
lol. I don't think he's being treated like the 2nd coming. he got interviewed, but all of the new guys will be.
we don't know what he is. he could be 5th starter or 10th guy. none of us know for sure if he'll be ahead or behind Julius, Sal, Nathan, Tomas, Bryce and Jake in the rotation.
we don't know what he is. he could be 5th starter or 10th guy. none of us know for sure if he'll be ahead or behind Julius, Sal, Nathan, Tomas, Bryce and Jake in the rotation.
Noah has to be wondering: why does 97 feel the irresistible compulsion to turn a seemingly innocuous re-post about my interview into a referendum on the last 10 years of Spider basketball? Yep, that is where we are.
It always amazes me how people who have never played D-1 bb can be so
knowledgeable about what a player might bring to the table.
I guess those other schools that wanted Noah too, were just subterfuge.
knowledgeable about what a player might bring to the table.
I guess those other schools that wanted Noah too, were just subterfuge.
Anyone who would think that only a D-1 basketball player can have basketball knowledge is delusional. Many outstanding coaches thru the years have proven that theory false.
Since we are still discussing it, Noah is an interesting case.
He played as a walk on, about 17 minutes a game last season, and against Yale’s schedule.
At the same time it appears his offensive rating, effective FG %, as well as FG % from 1, 2, & 3 were all higher than any year from Cline ( at 34 minutes against our schedule).
That gives me some hope, without a lot of certainty of how it will translate.
He played as a walk on, about 17 minutes a game last season, and against Yale’s schedule.
At the same time it appears his offensive rating, effective FG %, as well as FG % from 1, 2, & 3 were all higher than any year from Cline ( at 34 minutes against our schedule).
That gives me some hope, without a lot of certainty of how it will translate.
I'm not disagreeing with you. My point is that I just find the arrogance of some of the posters
that don't even want to give the young man a chance, is, as you would say, delusional.
Did you read my follow-up?
Opinions are like a-------, everyone has one. My statement refers to the fact that Noah's growth
has proven to be continual, and hopefully will be beneficial to our program. But some would
rather not even consider the possibility that Mooney and other coaches have seen.
We weren't his only offer.
Annap, watched every practice this past week. I can tell you three things about Noah: 1) Noah is a very good shooter, 2) Noah is a football player, i.e. he is extremely strong and tough; he takes no prisoners, 3) Noah has “fire”; that is to say that he expects a lot of himself, makes no excuses and is never satisfied. Hey, I don’t know what he will do in a game, but I do know there were numerous schools interested in him and I am extremely happy he is a Spider.
“Yates received interest from more than a dozen Division I programs before choosing to play for the Spiders.”
https://yaledailynews.com/downthefield/2018/05/16/yates-signs-with-richmond-as-a-graduate-transfer/
https://yaledailynews.com/downthefield/2018/05/16/yates-signs-with-richmond-as-a-graduate-transfer/
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That was according to "Richmond athletics" per the article. More than likely we were tooting our own horns. Unless, we have some outside sources with some actual names of schools that were seriously interested in him, cast me as skeptical.
And for the record, Annap, where in my post did I say I wasn't given the kid a chance. I said he was 8th in minutes for an .500 Ivy league school last year, which is a fact, and yet on here he has been talked about playing a larger role for our team despite the fact that we play in a much higher league in the A-10.
I would really like to know what other schools were interested in him. If someone could actually find names of these schools that might change my opinion of him but given our ongoing recruiting failures, particularly in the grad transfer arena, I am not giving Mooney and his crew any benefit of the doubt.
Remember, certain people thought Abakah was going to be the second coming after losing out on Bernard....didn't work out.
Remember, certain people thought Madrid-Andrews was going to be a huge surprise...HOT GARBAGE.
I don't believe that it's all the player's fault. It's not the player that's the problem...IT'S THE SYSTEM!!! Mooney keeps trying to fit round pegs into triangle shaped holes. It just doesn't work. He totally wasted the talent of people while they were here, and made it so bad they were afraid to take shots. Once Mooney is gone we'll have a chance to get better.
Remember, certain people thought Madrid-Andrews was going to be a huge surprise...HOT GARBAGE.
I don't believe that it's all the player's fault. It's not the player that's the problem...IT'S THE SYSTEM!!! Mooney keeps trying to fit round pegs into triangle shaped holes. It just doesn't work. He totally wasted the talent of people while they were here, and made it so bad they were afraid to take shots. Once Mooney is gone we'll have a chance to get better.
Yates had better numbers as a walk on in a better conference than either of those guys did. Those past guys were more recruiting failures than coaching failures
There really are posts for every occasion:
https://richmond.forums.rivals.com/threads/kwesi-abaka.7758/#post-158676
https://richmond.forums.rivals.com/...on-we-will-be-dancing.9817/page-2#post-212799
I think 2011 is looking more at post #32 than #31 in the Abakah thread...
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Everyone we have ever signed is a star, in your opinion. How can you determine that this kid has a “fire”? Give me a break. You also said this last year:
“The biggest surprise to me was Jordan Madrid-Andrews, our graduate transfer. Several times he made clever moves in the post to score, then made shots from the perimeter. He made good passes, grabbed rebounds and did a reasonable job guarding Grant. Chatted with him briefly; really a well-spoken young man. Jordan is way better than Kwesi, just no comparison; he will be greatly appreciated this season.”
I am not making any comment on Noah since I have not seen him play.
Regarding Ulla, he has stated repetitively in this forum that the depth of his basketball knowledge is limited. I respect the candor. Don't understand why some don't take him at his word when they read his player assessments.
Regarding Ulla, he has stated repetitively in this forum that the depth of his basketball knowledge is limited. I respect the candor. Don't understand why some don't take him at his word when they read his player assessments.
I don’t remember him ever saying that his knowledge is limited. I just see all these posts claiming that all of our recruits, players, and coaches are great, and criticizing those that are critical of the team.
It wasn't a comment on Noah. It was a comment on this board lauding him as playing a more significant role for us this year than he played for Yale last year. Mo's bringing up the Kweisi and JMA's posts from several years back are a reminder as to how so many on this board significantly over hype our recruits despite the ample amount of factual evidence out there stating otherwise.
Another A-10 prograsticator just came out with his ranking for next year. Richmond was on the "last tier" of teams he ranked with LaSalle, GW, and Fordham. But on here, we talk about finishing in the Top 4.
Another A-10 prograsticator just came out with his ranking for next year. Richmond was on the "last tier" of teams he ranked with LaSalle, GW, and Fordham. But on here, we talk about finishing in the Top 4.
Honestly, I'm not sure. I trust the A-10 bloggers because they have a pulse on all of the league members, who is coming and who is going. The fact that multiple prognasticators are seeing us at the bottom of the league to me is pretty telling of what our talent is thought of outside the confines of the Robins Center.
However, you asked where I think well finish, so I'll pony up. I would say we would finish probably 7-9 this year, but we all know how one win or one loss either way can make the difference between finishing 5th and finishing 11th. I think there is a significant seperation between us and the top level teams in the conference.
However, you asked where I think well finish, so I'll pony up. I would say we would finish probably 7-9 this year, but we all know how one win or one loss either way can make the difference between finishing 5th and finishing 11th. I think there is a significant seperation between us and the top level teams in the conference.
Unfortunately I can see where the prognosticator could correctly reach that opinion. But I could also see us in the second tier. So I'm not getting too excited I'll just wait to see how it plays out.
I still don't see what you're seeing. "so many"??? more like "very few".
who over hyped those two? some were just glad we filled the spots and saw them hopefully providing depth. that's the extent of the over hyping.
Do you have a link to these predictions? How did these prognosticators do with their predictions in previous years in terms of predictions vs outcomes?
Here's the likely extent of this guy's analysis ... UR won 12 games and lost Buckingham and Fore.
Do you follow Torvik's Rankings? Somewhere I saw them listed as 1 of a few preseason predictions last year (but can't find that group of predictions now). I looked at their thoughts on the A-10 Friday, but it looks different now, even though it is dated June 20...
You have to be kidding, right? Look at every post of every recruit we get, and follow the countless posts about heir leadership, academic abilities, shooting form, etc. Almost every recruit is viewed as having an immediate impact on the team.
