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MolivaManiac

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My biggest disappointment in this team is that they just don't seem to want it badly enough. I see no fire on the sideline. Nobody tossing a helmet or a water cooler or anything. We had that from Omar last year and other guys before that.

Desire will help a team prevail in a close game. I just don't see enough desire.
 
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MolivaManiac said:
My biggest disappointment in this team is that they just don't seem to want it badly enough. I see no fire on the sideline. Nobody tossing a helmet or a water cooler or anything. We had that Omar last year and other guys before that.

Desire will help a team prevail in a close game. I just don't see enough desire.
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Totally agree. That's one of the things that I mean when I say they're soft.
 
MolivaManiac said:
My biggest disappointment in this team is that they just don't seem to want it badly enough. I see no fire on the sideline. Nobody tossing a helmet or a water cooler or anything. We had that from Omar last year and other guys before that.

Desire will help a team prevail in a close game. I just don't see enough desire.
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We got no fans either!
 
I don't know if it is not wanting it bad enough or wanting it too much. We seem to press an awful lot - dropping passes trying to make a big play before looking it in - unnecessary brain dead penalties at the worst possible moment trying to make the big play to stuff a drive - a gift touchdown to the opponent almost every game by trying to do too much on O or D.

On a different but equally dreary subject - it was Homecoming, where the hell was the crowd? In nearly 50 years of Spider football, this may have been the most pitiful Homecoming crowd I have seen.
 
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I don't know if it is not wanting it bad enough or wanting it too much. We seem to press an awful lot - dropping passes trying to make a big play before looking it in - unnecessary brain dead penalties at the worst possible moment trying to make the big play to stuff a drive - a gift touchdown to the opponent almost every game by trying to do too much on O or D.

On a different but equally dreary subject - it was Homecoming, where the hell was the crowd? In nearly 50 years of Spider football, this may have been the most pitiful Homecoming crowd I have seen.
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The students left after the all important crowning of the homecoming king and queen.

On a side note, the one student at UR from the central Virginia area (Midlothian) won homecoming queen.
 
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I don't know if it is not wanting it bad enough or wanting it too much. We seem to press an awful lot - dropping passes trying to make a big play before looking it in - unnecessary brain dead penalties at the worst possible moment trying to make the big play to stuff a drive - a gift touchdown to the opponent almost every game by trying to do too much on O or D.

On a different but equally dreary subject - it was Homecoming, where the hell was the crowd? In nearly 50 years of Spider football, this may have been the most pitiful Homecoming crowd I have seen.
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Thank you!! We have a problem.
 
This is a dumpster fire. Coaching is a big part of this. I don't think Huesman gets the guys fired up to play, desire comes from the coaches too. We need a guy like Mike Houston. That guy gets his team fired up, watch one of his pregame speeches on YouTube. We need to get this dumpster fire under control very soon.
 
Marley13 said:
Took our pledge trip to your "school". Drank every one of your brothers under the table. Didn't take that long either.
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You would never out drink a Rompin Stompin AGR from VPI buddy. What fraternity are you a member of?
 
KE Spider said:
I don't know if it is not wanting it bad enough or wanting it too much. We seem to press an awful lot - dropping passes trying to make a big play before looking it in - unnecessary brain dead penalties at the worst possible moment trying to make the big play to stuff a drive - a gift touchdown to the opponent almost every game by trying to do too much on O or D.

On a different but equally dreary subject - it was Homecoming, where the hell was the crowd? In nearly 50 years of Spider football, this may have been the most pitiful Homecoming crowd I have seen.
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When I got to my seats it was about 5 mins before kickoff. I figured the fans would fill up the stadium on Homecoming. I don't know the count yesterday, but there were a lot of empty seats...maybe even less than some of the earlier season games? Looks like a lot of the blue seats were empty.

On a positive note, I had a chance to talk with some of the football players from when I was at UR. Those were the days we'd go to City Stadium and sit through heavy rain to support the team. We'd be there for every game start to finish. I guess things have changed.
 
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When I got to my seats it was about 5 mins before kickoff. I figured the fans would fill up the stadium on Homecoming. I don't know the count yesterday, but there were a lot of empty seats...maybe even less than some of the earlier season games? Looks like a lot of the blue seats were empty.

On a positive note, I had a chance to talk with some of the football players from when I was at UR. Those were the days we'd go to City Stadium and sit through heavy rain to support the team. We'd be there for every game start to finish. I guess things have changed.
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I agree, you had that coupon book and you exchanged a coupon for a ticket occasionally if you got there late you couldn't get one. And got there early and stayed to the end. I recall an ECU game pouring, lightning sitting in metal stands team driving for a wing score and we stayed. Stupid yes but it mattered
 
There really was no energy in the whole stadium yesterday. Not that it should matter...but even the small things like giving kids high fives before they run onto the field. My kids ask to get into the stadium 30 minutes early to give the players high fives. Yesterday most of the guys just walked right past them and then trotted out onto the field. No noise. No energy. In past years I’d say almost every player would give kids high fives, or at least acknowledge them, and show some energy. Does it really matter??? No. It doesn’t. But when you come out flat it’s just another observation that these guys don’t seem like they are having fun, playing loose and playing to win. I don’t know how to fix that, but do know that life is too short to just go through the motions. In the end, I really don’t care if they win or lose - live life with passion and enjoy it. The fans get behind the guys that care and show emotion. We’re in close games, we don’t need a heck of a lot of difference to have a really good record.
 
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MolivaManiac said:
My biggest disappointment in this team is that they just don't seem to want it badly enough. I see no fire on the sideline. Nobody tossing a helmet or a water cooler or anything. We had that from Omar last year and other guys before that.

Desire will help a team prevail in a close game. I just don't see enough desire.
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As I said in the other thread, I'd rather see us get personal fowls than play like milk toast.
 
MolivaManiac said:
My biggest disappointment in this team is that they just don't seem to want it badly enough. I see no fire on the sideline. Nobody tossing a helmet or a water cooler or anything. We had that from Omar last year and other guys before that.

Desire will help a team prevail in a close game. I just don't see enough desire.
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Apart from missing his OL ability along with his raw strength,we miss the dogged vocal presence of Thomas Evans.He got his teammates jacked up.
 
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Isn't having your season on the line enough to get them jacked up?

As far as the crowd is concerned, is was a quiet as I've seen it. But fumbling and giving up a touchdown even before we had played an offensive down just sucked the oxygen right out of the room. And beyond the first drive for a td, the rest of the game was slow and disjointed with all the penalties and miscues. There was one point in the second quarter, with the mild temperature and gentle breeze, that I think I actually dozed off. The team looked as if they lacked any energy, and the crowd fed off that.
 
Just a few thoughts on team and season

An experienced AD would have realized that the team had enough talent in place to win for 2-3 years and continuity would be most important to keep , i.e. Toledo with its coaching change.

They should have kept Garret as head coach , he had contacts to bring in excellamt assistants Look at staff at Lafayette , very little talent but really good coaches

We would have had a balanced attack and a lot less pressure on the defense. What a great stable of running backs there's no excuse for 50+ passes a game. From the kids perspective they went from a players coach friendly environment that was working to a coach looking to change the culture because it was too laxed in his words, how's that working ...

Garret had same philosophy as a Rocco.

Bottom line not surprising , huesman is a good coach and it's a great fit on paper but it will take him at least 3 years to have a team he can win at a high level.
It's a shame as this team was built to win a championship but with a different type of driver at the helm
 
ust a few thoughts on team and season
An experienced AD would have realized that the team had enough talent in place to win for 2-3 years and continuity would be most important to keep , i.e. Toledo with its coaching change.

They should have kept Garret as head coach , he had contacts to bring in excellamt assistants Look at staff at Lafayette , very little talent but really good coaches-THEY ARE SUCH GOOD COACHES, THAT THEY ARE 2-6 WITH LOSSES TO MONMOUTH AND SACRED HEART, JUST GOT NIPPED BY VILLANOVA 59-0. NO DOUBT GARRETT DID A GOOD JOB HERE AT RICHMOND.
 
LongTimeLurkerFirstTimePoster said:
ust a few thoughts on team and season
An experienced AD would have realized that the team had enough talent in place to win for 2-3 years and continuity would be most important to keep , i.e. Toledo with its coaching change.

They should have kept Garret as head coach , he had contacts to bring in excellamt assistants Look at staff at Lafayette , very little talent but really good coaches-THEY ARE SUCH GOOD COACHES, THAT THEY ARE 2-6 WITH LOSSES TO MONMOUTH AND SACRED HEART, JUST GOT NIPPED BY VILLANOVA 59-0. NO DOUBT GARRETT DID A GOOD JOB HERE AT RICHMOND.
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Garret inherited a team that I think was winless with little talent. He will win a few games this year and get better the next few. It's about the talent that's why everyone is disappointed in this years staff
 
just look at the landscape of college football coaches now, if you are not winning 11 games and beating your rival, you are gone. now, if you have a big buy out, who cares but if you do not, your agent is terrible. see why some of these huge buy outs are in place, there is no job security at all.
 
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Garret inherited a team that I think was winless with little talent. He will win a few games this year and get better the next few. It's about the talent that's why everyone is disappointed in this years staff
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You're contradicting yourself, I think. We are lacking talent at key positions, especially on defense. Huesman will get it straightened out. We'll never know if the season would have gone any different if there had been no coaching change. Just for fun, go read the Delaware board after their loss to Towson. There are as many, maybe more, fans that want to run DR off as give him a chance over the next few years. We, including myself, think we know better when we really don't.
 
Maybe - probably - off base, but what many see as "no fire", I see as " tenseness" from a team that knows they are far from meeting their goals and their potential. Uptight. Tense, Pressing. Leads to a lot of unforced errors. Most games, despite our deficiencies, we have not gotten beaten as much as we have beaten ourselves.
 
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Russ is an excellent coach and he will win big here. I am glad we have him as our head coach. He will get the players that suit his system. He is an accomplished head coach who at Chattanooga of all places.
 
KE Spider said:
Maybe - probably - off base, but what many see as "no fire", I see as " tenseness" from a team that knows they are far from meeting their goals and their potential. Uptight. Tense, Pressing. Leads to a lot of unforced errors. Most games, despite our deficiencies, we have not gotten beaten as much as we have beaten ourselves.
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Think you may be onto something. Back to my post - perhaps they are too “business like”. Same leadership questions though - who is the guy on the team that can get the others guys to follow?
 
SpiderRick said:
Isn't having your season on the line enough to get them jacked up?

As far as the crowd is concerned, is was a quiet as I've seen it. But fumbling and giving up a touchdown even before we had played an offensive down just sucked the oxygen right out of the room. And beyond the first drive for a td, the rest of the game was slow and disjointed with all the penalties and miscues. There was one point in the second quarter, with the mild temperature and gentle breeze, that I think I actually dozed off. The team looked as if they lacked any energy, and the crowd fed off that.
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Read the Baltimore Sun's comments about the students and fans as NO shows for Maryland games.
I don't understand it. We used to make game a must.
 
Spider B said:
Russ is an excellent coach and he will win big here. I am glad we have him as our head coach. He will get the players that suit his system. He is an accomplished head coach who at Chattanooga of all places.
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We don't know this yet, if you can blame Rocco for the talent drop off here look at what UTChatanooga is doing 2-7 so is that Huesmans fault? The reason tho whole thing is hard to take is we lost a winning coach to an in conference rival. Just Horrible. yes the AD in charge is gone maybe he was totally to blame, but I'm not convinced he was the only problem at UR
 
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