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I do think JB has the temperament and experience to be a successful NBA coach. It will be a big adjustment, however. In college, the coach is more or less the CEO of the program. In the NBA, organizations are very player-centric, with the coach often making less $$$$ than the first 5 or 6 players, and players frequently calling most of the shots (like LeBron does at Cleveland).
If he decides to coach the Pistons, I wish him the best.
If he decides to coach the Pistons, I wish him the best.
An NBA coach's job is to call the timeout at the right time and keep his players' heads in the game at critical times and to keep them happy. Nothing more. Keep everyone happy, have decent talent and team can win.
Seems the exceptions should be the rule???? NBA owners starting to see the light. I will say, watching the Rockets play was very hard on the eyes. Harden is great, but can't watch that style all day.
Strictly a money grab as I bet the Pistons pay less than UM. He interviews, word gets out he is interviewing and I bet UM has a new deal in place worth more money for JB.
He has come close to winning it all at UM, but fear he will never get over the hump - but he has probably now earned the position at UM that as long as they keep winning and make the NCAA tourney (which they should do each year) - he will likely never be fired. Tough to fire a guy who took you to 2 Title games.
He has come close to winning it all at UM, but fear he will never get over the hump - but he has probably now earned the position at UM that as long as they keep winning and make the NCAA tourney (which they should do each year) - he will likely never be fired. Tough to fire a guy who took you to 2 Title games.
Detroit paid Stan Van Gundy $7M per year so why would you think Detroit would pay less than UM?
Stan had a 5 year $35M contract. Most NBA coaches make ~$5M+ per year. A few make less ($3-5M) and some make more $5-7M. Doc Rivers makes $10M per year and Pop makes $11M per year.
The coach with the best pedigree in the NBA coaches the Brooklyn Nets. Had a tough season at 28-54 but Atkinson is doing all he can to improve the team's prospects.
Stan Van Gundy has a long list of experience and respect in the NBA, so I think that is why he got such a lucrative deal. I think a coach like JB jumping from NCAA land to the pros will not be close to that
Look at it this way - Brad Stevens at the Celtics is getting 22 million for 6 years, and he is widely considered right now the best coach in basketball and showed it this year by taking the to within a game of the NBA finals without his 2 best players. So I would expect JB would be a long term deal from the Pistons (5 years) probably worth around 3-3.5 million. Which is something UM could easily match and exceed with their deep pockets.
But this might also be classic JB moving up the ladder. He seems to always leave a place when they achieve recent success. Maybe he knows the run is up. UR - we move to the A10 and in the first year with CAA players, make the A10 final, and he leaves for WVU. WVU - Elite 8, Sweet 16, then wins the NIT and leaves for Michigan. Michigan - coming off sweet 16 and losing in title game.
Maybe he knows he has a limited time at a certain spot before he needs to move on in order to keep being successful???
Look at it this way - Brad Stevens at the Celtics is getting 22 million for 6 years, and he is widely considered right now the best coach in basketball and showed it this year by taking the to within a game of the NBA finals without his 2 best players. So I would expect JB would be a long term deal from the Pistons (5 years) probably worth around 3-3.5 million. Which is something UM could easily match and exceed with their deep pockets.
But this might also be classic JB moving up the ladder. He seems to always leave a place when they achieve recent success. Maybe he knows the run is up. UR - we move to the A10 and in the first year with CAA players, make the A10 final, and he leaves for WVU. WVU - Elite 8, Sweet 16, then wins the NIT and leaves for Michigan. Michigan - coming off sweet 16 and losing in title game.
Maybe he knows he has a limited time at a certain spot before he needs to move on in order to keep being successful???
that would imply he's afraid of failing where he is. I've never seen that from him.
I think each move up is for another challenge and I think he's always confident he'll succeed. there's a limit to how much you can succeed at each stop along the way. he's moved up to higher levels each time to raise that bar on what he can achieve.
I think each move up is for another challenge and I think he's always confident he'll succeed. there's a limit to how much you can succeed at each stop along the way. he's moved up to higher levels each time to raise that bar on what he can achieve.
If there is one consistent thing about every stop that JB has made in his career (besides him being highly successful at each stop) is that JB is always looking for the next step up in the career ladder.
I've never known JB to go out and interview for a job just to get a raise at his current job. When he interviews, he does so because he wants a new challenge.
I've never known JB to go out and interview for a job just to get a raise at his current job. When he interviews, he does so because he wants a new challenge.
The thing that most makes sense to me is that JB has climbed all the way up the coaching ladder from high school to, potentially, the NBA, without ever having been an assistant. It's a pretty incredible story, and nobody has his "formation," really. He's also 65, and therefore, if this opportunity comes to him, he had best listen. The NBA is not typically a place that will give first time opportunities to people who are 66/67/68.
Even if it was not his intent to go to the NBA, now that they have come to him, he has to listen, I think.
Even if it was not his intent to go to the NBA, now that they have come to him, he has to listen, I think.
I disagree, if Detroit really wants him, they will offer what it takes to get him and the SVG contract proves that they have the financial means to do so. The idea that the NBA Detroit "Pistons pay less than UM" because UM has "deep pockets" is just not accurate. Proven by the SVG contract.
In terms of Brad Stevens, his contract was from over 5 years ago (2013) and salaries have increased over that time. Stevens also went from making $1.2M at Butler to a contract worth about triple that with the Celtics. Stevens then signed a 3 year extension, 2 1/2 seasons in, that I have heard far exceeds the value of his initial $22M / 6 year deal. I'm a big Celtics fan and love Stevens, the success he had at Butler was amazing, especially for someone his age. But JB's success at Michigan isn't much different than what Stevens did at Butler. Both are 2-time NCAA runner-ups.
I read that JB actually makes north of $3.3M at UM. I suspect that Detroit would offer him at least $5M annually and probably more.
agreed. you don't even call a guy making $3.3 mil if you aren't willing to offer $5 mil.
I think NBA league starts to have smart players now. JR Smith is type of player no longer needed. Many smart players now that understand team play but I think sometimes some NBA coaches working are not ready for these players. The ready to play smart coaches like Stevens can win with less trophyp layers. This is why I think Mr JB type coach can have the success.
And immediately with that news UM announced an extension with JB is in the works and imminent. So I think it worked out as planned.
UM says this extension was in the works before he interviewed, but I bet the extension got a little longer and maybe more lucrative as well as a result of this interview.
JB knows the game, he has been around and done this before.
UM says this extension was in the works before he interviewed, but I bet the extension got a little longer and maybe more lucrative as well as a result of this interview.
JB knows the game, he has been around and done this before.
While at UR - JB interviewed at Rutgers, Wake, and WVU (twice). Each time I believe it resulted in more money or years. He knows the dance or at least has an agent who knows the dance.
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