How the SLU cancelation and subsequent pause went down

[SFspidur]

The Collegian blows the whole thing wide open....anybody blame SLU for flying home now?

- Jan 27: Morning after the St. Joe's game. Hoops staff member tests positive. Players deemed to not be close contacts, and do not quarantine.

- Jan 28: SLU arrives in Richmond ahead of the game the following day and likely finds out about the positive staff member result.

- Jan 29: An injured UR player (Crabtree maybe?) tests positive. He has been using the locker room and doing rehab, but no active players are deemed to be close contacts. SLU clearly gets more concerned by multiple positive tests coming out of the program. The A-10 adjudicates things and sides with SLU, and the game is called off and SLU flies home.

- Jan 30: Sounds like another staff member tests positive. Team begins quarantining at the Marriott while they await testing.

- Jan 31: Six or seven players test positive. Everybody is in quarantine or isolation, depending on whether they're positive or a close contact.

- Feb 3: Four or five more players test positive.

- Feb 9: First group of positives is cleared from quarantine and can resume activities.

- Feb 12: Second group of positives is cleared.

Lots more details in the article including some info on the previous pause and discussion of the special treatment the hoops seems to have gotten on quarantine procedures.

Men’s basketball quarantine, isolation in hotels points to COVID-19 policy inconsistencies

The University of Richmond men’s basketball team has been quarantining and isolating in hotels and, at one point, used a shortened quarantine period.

www.thecollegianur.com

 

[97spiderfan]

The Collegian blows the whole thing wide open....anybody blame SLU for flying home now?

- Jan 27: Morning after the St. Joe's game. Hoops staff member tests positive. Players deemed to not be close contacts, and do not quarantine.

- Jan 28: SLU arrives in Richmond ahead of the game the following day and likely finds out about the positive staff member result.

- Jan 29: An injured UR player (Crabtree maybe?) tests positive. He has been using the locker room and doing rehab, but no active players are deemed to be close contacts. SLU clearly gets more concerned by multiple positive tests coming out of the program. The A-10 adjudicates things and sides with SLU, and the game is called off and SLU flies home.

- Jan 30: Sounds like another staff member tests positive. Team begins quarantining at the Marriott while they await testing.

- Jan 31: Six or seven players test positive. Everybody is in quarantine or isolation, depending on whether they're positive or a close contact.

- Feb 3: Four or five more players test positive.

- Feb 9: First group of positives is cleared from quarantine and can resume activities.

- Feb 12: Second group of positives is cleared.

Lots more details in the article including some info on the previous pause and discussion of the special treatment the hoops seems to have gotten on quarantine procedures.

Men’s basketball quarantine, isolation in hotels points to COVID-19 policy inconsistencies

The University of Richmond men’s basketball team has been quarantining and isolating in hotels and, at one point, used a shortened quarantine period.

www.thecollegianur.com

You did a better summary.

 

[97spiderfan]

The Bernadette interview comments to JOC make a heck of a lot of more sense now when you know the context. Wanna know why they moved most of the A-10 tournament games away from us and to VCU and Dayton, right here. And while this was all going down with SLU, our AD and head coach publicly went out and skewered SLU and the league for bailing on the game.

 

[SFspidur]

You did a better summary.

You hit the main takeaways...longer isn't always better. Honestly, as I was writing it I started to feel like it was almost as long as the article, but no, that article is super long.

 

[ChoppinBroccoli]

anybody blame SLU for flying home now?

VT4700

 

[MolivaManiac]

Are we approaching the stage of this saga where some jobs could be lost?

 

[Eight Legger]

"Good" news is apparently all of our players have had it and recovered, so no more pauses!

 

[GKiller]

The Bernadette interview comments to JOC make a heck of a lot of more sense now when you know the context. Wanna know why they moved most of the A-10 tournament games away from us and to VCU and Dayton, right here. And while this was all going down with SLU, our AD and head coach publicly went out and skewered SLU and the league for bailing on the game.

they even got JOC to float the embarrassing forfeit possibility for SLU. Make no mistake the UR AD got in JOC’s ear about that. Yet no real transparency on our side. It goes to mid level communications employees with the school not AD.

Mooney & Hardt r giving UR basketball a bad name. I really can’t see how either one deserves any support to return. I mean commissioner of the A10 publicly flogged the AD, our coach has also been less than truthful and the 7-20 and 2011 numbers speak for themselves.

Now there is a question if the players have the coaches back any more with this coming out during season.

I brought up the hotel situation a long time ago. I’ve never quite understood it w the spaces we designated on campus. In some cases it may be justified but I wonder if the Marriott or short pump put notice out that they house all the local university COVID cases. U of R the community steward.

But thank goodness it’s not the Westin!!

 

[MolivaManiac]

Now there is a question if the players have the coaches back any more with this coming out during season.

Our senior leaders going on record for the article might be the most notable thing here.

 

[Eight Legger]

Yeah, the timing of this with those guys putting their names to the article makes one of two things true to me: They got the ok from Mooney to go on record because he's pissed at Hardt, or they did it on their own because they're pissed at Mooney, or Hardt, or both.

Either way, it feels like the season is toast, tbh.

"Stop the Queall!"

 

[Marley13]

Total dumpster fire.

 

[ur2K]

Mooney and Hardt are flat out liars based on the clown show they pulled out after the SLU debacle. “We have no idea why they left”

From the article:

Saint Louis University withdrew from a game against UR scheduled for Jan. 29 because of “differing interpretations of contact tracing,” the Richmond-Times Dispatch reported. Contact tracing processes and close contact definitions can differ among colleges.

Following a positive COVID-19 test result of a staff member, the team went to the Courtyard by Marriott Richmond West on Broad Street on Jan. 30 as a precaution before being tested the next day, Golden said. On Jan. 31, about six or seven players tested positive for COVID-19, starting the team’s quarantine and isolation period, Golden said.

 

[8legs1dream]

you have GOT to be kidding me 😨

 

[ncspiderfan]

The Collegian blows the whole thing wide open....anybody blame SLU for flying home now?

- Jan 27: Morning after the St. Joe's game. Hoops staff member tests positive. Players deemed to not be close contacts, and do not quarantine.

- Jan 28: SLU arrives in Richmond ahead of the game the following day and likely finds out about the positive staff member result.

- Jan 29: An injured UR player (Crabtree maybe?) tests positive. He has been using the locker room and doing rehab, but no active players are deemed to be close contacts. SLU clearly gets more concerned by multiple positive tests coming out of the program. The A-10 adjudicates things and sides with SLU, and the game is called off and SLU flies home.

- Jan 30: Sounds like another staff member tests positive. Team begins quarantining at the Marriott while they await testing.

- Jan 31: Six or seven players test positive. Everybody is in quarantine or isolation, depending on whether they're positive or a close contact.

- Feb 3: Four or five more players test positive.

- Feb 9: First group of positives is cleared from quarantine and can resume activities.

- Feb 12: Second group of positives is cleared.

Lots more details in the article including some info on the previous pause and discussion of the special treatment the hoops seems to have gotten on quarantine procedures.

Men’s basketball quarantine, isolation in hotels points to COVID-19 policy inconsistencies

The University of Richmond men’s basketball team has been quarantining and isolating in hotels and, at one point, used a shortened quarantine period.

www.thecollegianur.com

Great time line SF.
Just info here, but having tested positive on Jan 29th myself I can share what my ER doctor buddy shared with me.
29th was a Friday, he explained that they are getting pretty good at figuring out when most people came in contact. His best guess I contacted Sunday or Monday before.
That said and if he is right about contact starting 4 or 5 days before positive test, the problem originally got in the program around Jan 22 or so.
My guess is the programs problem is not with quarantine procedures as much as understanding the contact tracing procedures. I suspect the SLU personnel knew more than UR people did about it.
Again, just info.
I also tested negative 11 days after first symptom, so that puts me about 14 days after infection

 

[ChoppinBroccoli]

Our senior leaders going on record for the article might be the most notable thing here.

Yeah, the timing of this with those guys putting their names to the article makes one of two things true to me: They got the ok from Mooney to go on record because he's pissed at Hardt, or they did it on their own because they're pissed at Mooney, or Hardt, or both.

Mooney does not come out of this looking good; I doubt it's the former.
The last four weeks have been a lesson in how *not* to do PR. Don't all player interviews have to be cleared through APR? What the **** is Vida even doing?

 

[Eight Legger]

Mooney does not come out of this looking good; I doubt it's the former.
The last four weeks have been a lesson in how *not* to do PR. Don't all player interviews have to be cleared through APR? What the **** is Vida even doing?

I'm sure they are supposed to be, but if this reporter is friends or acquaintances with them, there's nothing stopping them from talking. Or maybe they don't know her but still felt obligated to talk. I mean I suppose they could be suspended for violating team rules or something, but is anyone going to bench the two best players now? Is Mooney going to kill whatever chance he has to make the tourney? I think they are bulletproof either way at this point.

 

[Spider B]

Are we approaching the stage of this saga where some jobs could be lost?

Anywhere else but Richmond, probably.

 

[BasaltSpider]

As long as the Collegian is the only source reporting on this I don't see this having too much of an impact.

The only way I think a change is made is if this story spreads to places like ESPN, reddit message boards, etc. Sources that our thin-skinned admins and leaders cannot control. Channels that have reach well beyond URs small community.

Remember, if there's ONE thing they do not tolerate, it's being embarrassed. They handle it poorly and will want the national negative spotlight off of them as fast as possible. So if you want change...

 

[GKiller]

As long as the Collegian is the only source reporting on this I don't see this having too much of an impact.

The only way I think a change is made is if this story spreads to places like ESPN, reddit message boards, etc. Sources that our thin-skinned admins and leaders cannot control. Channels that have reach well beyond URs small community.

Remember, if there's ONE thing they do not tolerate, it's being embarrassed. They handle it poorly and will want the national negative spotlight off of them as fast as possible. So if you want change...

True and it's not going to raise to that level. Although if u get it out to the UR Karens out on the FaceBOOK that may get a little noticed internally.

The long shot is Barstool ripping us. There r strong Spider ties there. The origins of Barstool were two Spider grads & Dave Portnoy. Now those 2 Spider grads r not formally involved but both have influence and very tight w Portnoy.

 

[97spiderfan]

As long as the Collegian is the only source reporting on this I don't see this having too much of an impact.

The only way I think a change is made is if this story spreads to places like ESPN, reddit message boards, etc. Sources that our thin-skinned admins and leaders cannot control. Channels that have reach well beyond URs small community.

Remember, if there's ONE thing they do not tolerate, it's being embarrassed. They handle it poorly and will want the national negative spotlight off of them as fast as possible. So if you want change...

Great post. Yes, we don't care too much about outcomes or accountability, but man we don't like being embarrassed.

It would be a darn shame if some media outlet put the Collegian article together with Hardt and Mooney's statements around the SLU cancellation.

 

[ur2K]

We have a lame duck president, a figure head AD (who apparently is on our conference commissioner's shit list), and a coach for life. This will be swept under the rug and we will continue to "compete"

 

[SouthJerseySpiderFan]

Are we approaching the stage of this saga where some jobs could be lost?

I say yes. Add to Mooney and Hardt's resume the lack of whatever you want to call it with regards to COVID protection. Along with presently the underachieving of the b-ball team.

 

[spider fan]

Richmond should forfeit the previously scheduled game to SLU. They bore the expense of flying to Richmond, spending the night, and determining that Covid risk was too high for their team to play. Then our Athletic Department was less than forthcoming (being charitable here) and attempting to cast the blame on SLU. No wonder we are in the proverbial "dog house" with the conference commissioner.

 

[GKiller]

We have a lame duck president, a figure head AD (who apparently is on our conference commissioner's shit list), and a coach for life. This will be swept under the rug and we will continue to "compete"

Yep. All up to PQ. Unfortunately with the timing of the President search, covid, and the huge mistake of the Mooney extension this summer we all expect he'll punt. 4th and inches on opponents 40 yard line and we punt.

It's down to getting lottery lucky with a team like BC taking Moon.

 

[SpiderGuy]

Are we approaching the stage of this saga where some jobs could be lost?

Bonuses & extensions are more likely.

 

[SinsemillaSpider]

Tonight's game is sponsored by the Moderna Vaccine. "The one shot the Richmond Spiders can't afford to miss"

 

[Eight Legger]

Yep. All up to PQ. Unfortunately with the timing of the President search, covid, and the huge mistake of the Mooney extension this summer we all expect he'll punt. 4th and inches on opponents 40 yard line and we punt.

It's down to getting lottery lucky with a team like BC taking Moon.

'Stop the Queall!'

 

[SpiderRick]

Total dumpster fire.

You are kind...more like a train wreck carrying a bunch of dumpsters all 🔥