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CHANGING THE LANDSCAPE

iSpider

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My understanding is that on at least one occasion, a home playoff game, Huesman got on the fans for not showing up en masse. I hope that he will not only voice concern but also see that steps are taken to remedy both the student and no-show ticketholder issues and help us change our football culture (landscape, if you will). I hope that he sees that the University's prohibition of pregame partying or tailgating is a large part of this problem and has Keith Gill and Dr. Crutcher address this problem very soon.

I still find it hard to accept any rationale as to why the University does not encourage the fraternities to party and then go to the games (except for the possibility that it might encourage some 18-20-year-old students to drink when they otherwise would not). Some of my favorite moments at UR were when I got together with friends before games, partied a bit, and then went to the games. It builds bonding between students as well as memorable experiences at alma mater.

45 States [including Virginia] allow exceptions to underage drinking
in one form or another. The current law is like the marijuana law in that in 99% of cases, it does nothing to curb underage use.
The law needs to change and/or the universities in Virginia need to change their policies or treat it as the feds do marijuana (turn their heads). In our case at UR, a change ignoring drinking by students 18-20 (even if parental consent is required) and allowing the fraternities to tailgate and party before games in itself would go a long way toward filling the student section and bolstering crowd support.

I don't know what ever became of it, but Ed Ayers was involved with a bunch of other university presidents across the country to change the drinking laws to allow 18, 19 and 20-year-old students to drink under certain circumstances because of reasons like this and the fact that the schools spent a lot of time and resources policing an action they could not effectively enforce. If preventing drinking of 18-20-year-olds from drinking is the reason that the fraternities are not allowed to tailgate and party before games without limiting their other activities, then the University's rationale is unfounded and it needs to change its policy.

I would like to know whether others agree with me because I am considering writing to the higher ups at the University to change this policy if there is a consensus that it would do nothing but assist and bolster game support, tend to increase student and university bonding, and change the current alleged environment between students and players.
 
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am sure that most universities do not wish to be in the alcohol control business anymore than they want to be involved in this rape business. am all for lowering age to 18 again. the laws do not stop young people from drinking and it is just plain hell for the colleges to have to do what they do. let college kids be college kids and keep the politicians out of it, too many do-gooders attempting to protect and have nobody hurt and that is just not going to happen.
 
I support anything that helps attract more students to games, as long as it is legal. I don't see how the university could ever support a plan that specifically tries to allow underage drinking on campus. Sure, it can turn the other way when underage drinking is happening, but legally encouraging it? Obviously a horrible idea.

Besides all that, we have a great football program – no one "needs" to be drunk in order to enjoy the games.
 
I think it would be tough to modify the age - I think its a great idea to allow the frats to have pre-games at their house. How cool would it be to see those house crowded and smoke curling up from a large piece of pork grilling over a fire...

Just ask the campus police to not pay to much attention and have the frats show some control (maybe THATS wishful thinking)
 
that is why the law needs to go back to 18 and then no probs except for those kids matriculating at an earlier age and probably not many of those.
 
UR needs a "Football for Geeks" class. Half the students don't know what the game is. Maybe if the players wore Games of Thrones or Assassins uniforms or rode a broom?
 
UR needs a "Football for Geeks" class. Half the students don't know what the game is. Maybe if the players wore Games of Thrones or Assassins uniforms or rode a broom?

Not like students at other schools have any higher Football IQ. Students attend football games because they are social events. Socializing, getting drunk, and getting laid are the primary draws. The football game itself is simply the entertainment backdrop to the party no different than the music at a club. Nobody has to understand what is going on on the field. Tailgating scene is everything when it comes to football attendance.
 
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I will personally approach the folks at Mission and spearhead a campaign to hold a "Barbecued Hen" contest at a certain pre-game tailgate in 2018.
 
I agree with everything in this thread! Games at my school are fun for the students to go to and it's an all day event. I think Tech does a wonderful job of advertising to students the importance of being at the game. I've been to every game and not the students not only show up but we are also very smart football fans. The student section gets very involved in the game. If UR can somehow get to that point on a smaller scale that would be outstanding.
 
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