A-10 Tourney Changes - March 3-6 in Richmond, March 14 Final in Dayton

[SFspidur]

Everything move up a week except the final, which will now be in Dayton.

Atlantic 10 Adjusts Men’s, Women’s Basketball Championship Dates

League Also Announces Basketball Championship Seeding Policy

atlantic10.com

Also approved is the seeding policy for both the men’s and women’s basketball for the 2021 championships. Teams above 60 percent of the median number of conference games played by all 14 teams will be seeded by conference winning percentage. Teams below that 60 percent threshold will be seeded using the NCAA NET ranking, relative to all A-10 teams. Additionally, teams below the 60 percent threshold will not be eligible for the regular season title.

 

[SpiderDad75]

What do you guys think? I personally think this is stupid...moving Final to Dayton that is.

 

[GKiller]

I’m a little confused. R they playing reg season games after the A10 tourney but b4 the final in Dayton? That wouldn’t make sense.

There goes our home game finale vs VCU.

Also dad75 I think we might be interested in your opinions outside this topic.

 

[Eight Legger]

What a shitshow. I read the whole thing and still have no understanding of what she was trying to articulate. How does "reordering the championship dates" allow the league to reschedule any games? You just eliminated a week of the regular season.

And why on earth would you make the two title teams pack up and fly to a second city after they just spent a few days in the first one? This is a disaster.

So now we just don't play UMass or VCU? Are they re-doing our entire schedule between Sunday and March 2? WTF

 

[MolivaManiac]

Its possible that there were gripes about our COVID protocols.

Is Ohio hosting more than 250 fans at sporting events?

 

[GKiller]

What a shitshow. I read the whole thing and still have no understanding of what she was trying to articulate. How does "reordering the championship dates" allow the league to reschedule any games? You just eliminated a week of the regular season.

And why on earth would you make the two title teams pack up and fly to a second city after they just spent a few days in the first one? This is a disaster.

The final is 8 days after the semis? I agree it was terribly articulated.

 

[GKiller]

Its possible that there were gripes about our COVID protocols.

Is Ohio hosting more than 250 fans at sporting events?

Our piss poor protocol & mitigation efforts crossed my mind too.

 

[GKiller]

I bet Hardt pushed Bernie to release this the day after our humiliating loss to VCU. Please Bernie today would be great. Anything to draw attention away.

 

[SpiderDogg]

This board is going to be an absolute war zone for the entire week before the championship game if we’re playing in it. One game would decide if we’ve had the most successful season in 10 years or if it’s painfully clear that we need a new regime. What a crossroad. But I don’t have my hopes up...

 

[Eight Legger]

They better give us the home game against VCU or else this whole thing is a joke.

 

[urfan1]

curious of the back story --they didn't check facility schedules before they announced the last schedule?

 

[Eight Legger]

Right? And what else is going on at the Robins Center right now anyway? Nothing. There can't be something happening at the Siegel Center, because they just put MORE games there than originally planned.

 

[Spiders4ever]

What a BS move by a BS commissioner.

 

[8legs1dream]

This board is going to be an absolute war zone for the entire week before the championship game if we’re playing in it. One game would decide if we’ve had the most successful season in 10 years or if it’s painfully clear that we need a new regime. What a crossroad. But I don’t have my hopes up...

I don't think you need to worry too much about that.

Having a hard time understanding the reasoning behind all of these changes. Seems like our University and the A10 both are in dire need of some fresh leadership 😳

 

[RichmondNative]

Definitely not going to play VCU again unless matched up in A10 tournament. Looks like the league decided it was going to create an even more unbalanced situation and are just trying to get single matchups in. I would bet UR will play Dayton on 23rd. So 3 games left suddenly in regular season.

Just when you thought it couldn’t get any better.

Welcome to you have to win the A10 tournament and by the way you get to wait around for over a week to play the championship if you get to it.

 

[Eight Legger]

So do we still play SLU and Duquesne? Does anyone know, it is the league just going to tell us when it feels like it?

 

[Ferrum Spider]

Even more of a reason to checkout. What a circus this is becoming.

 

[whampas]

A compromise with the rest of the league who probably complained that the setup favored the Richmond schools. Would be hilarious if UR and VCU make it to the finals. I'm guessing we'll be eliminated before that happens.

 

[Eight Legger]

I hope no one complained too loudly... Some of us are old enough to remember when the entire tournament was played at UD Arena.

 

[SFspidur]

curious of the back story --they didn't check facility schedules before they announced the last schedule?

I think the last schedule was fine. The facility conflicts only arose because of the shift in dates...they couldn't use the same hosting pattern on the new dates.

It seems like they want to have flexibility to push rounds of the tournament back if needed? With the original schedule, you're right up against Selection Sunday. I don't know how much cushion a week gives you though, seeing as many of the COVID pauses have been ~2 weeks.

 

[plydogg]

Worst part about this is it gives Mooney and the administration another excuse to use

 

[Ferrum Spider]

I hope no one complained too loudly... Some of us are old enough to remember when the entire tournament was played at UD Arena.

F^{^]%iING Sean Finn. Easily my most hated Flyer and it’s not even close.
Refs jobbed us in the semis that year. Remember Wainright with his own Mooney moment after the game chasing the refs

 

[whampas]

I hope no one complained too loudly... Some of us are old enough to remember when the entire tournament was played at UD Arena.

Hell, I'm old enough to remember the Southern played at the Richmond Arena.

 

[Eight Legger]

F^{^]%iING Sean Finn. Easily my most hated Flyer and it’s not even close.
Refs jobbed us in the semis that year. Remember Wainright with his own Mooney moment after the game chasing the refs

The comeback against Dayton that I thought we had pulled off.. Ugh. So close.

 

[I-M-UR]

So the A10 has recognized we have no hope of an at large bid. And Hardt is ok with that, or to cowardly to object, or has 0 influence, or is punting,‘’the greatest team ever’ is over and accepting no post season and a bare cup board with the same coach going into next year? What is going on?

 

[SFspidur]

Sounds like A-10 still wants to get the second VCU game in.

 

[Eight Legger]

Sounds like A-10 still wants to get the second VCU game in.

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So their announcement made it sound like they already had rearranged the games they wanted to and then rescheduled the tourney. Now the opposite seems to be the case. Again, what a shitshow.

 

[GKiller]

So the A10 has recognized we have no hope of an at large bid. And Hardt is ok with that, or to cowardly to object, or has 0 influence, or is punting,‘’the greatest team ever’ is over and accepting no post season and a bare cup board with the same coach going into next year? What is going on?

Any objections from us would seem silly after 3 pauses. There is nobody to blame in our Regatta but ourselves on court and off. But regardless no initial statement from Hardt in our own UR press release even though we were host is a bit strange. Someone from UR will comment eventually, via JOC probably.

 

[SpiderRick]

I was thinking that this built-in off week is just another pause. But then our season will probably be over so it's a moot point.

 

[RichmondNative]

I was thinking that this built-in off week is just another pause.

Spiders have the most experience with pauses, so I think other teams should complain......

 

[SpiderTrap]

If your moving the championship to Dayton - why not play the whole thing there? It has been done before. Might take an extra day or two because limited to one arena instead of 2 in Richmond, but makes no sense to play up to semi's in Richmond then 8 days later finals in Dayton. Only bad (COVID) things can happen in those 8 days.

 

[8legs1dream]

If your moving the championship to Dayton - why not play the whole thing there? It has been done before. Might take an extra day or two because limited to one arena instead of 2 in Richmond, but makes no sense to play up to semi's in Richmond then 8 days later finals in Dayton. Only bad (COVID) things can happen in those 8 days.

the reasoning behind that (I am assuming) is that if a team that would play in the championship game has a positive test they have a week to try to get it resolved? But there is still the very likely possibility that if it does play out like that then a week would not be enough time anyway. I say play the title game the next day or a day after or whatever and if the teams were healthy enough to play in the semifinals then they should be healthy enough to play in the final.

 

[Eight Legger]

Today, the league will announce that first-round games for teams whose names start with A-H will take place at Siegel, those I-M at the RC and all others at Fordham. Second-round games will be played at the new Duquesne arena, quarterfinals at Lasalle and St. Joe's, semis at Rhode Island and the finals will be played virtually on PS5.

 

[Spiders4ever]

Crap let's just go with these three. Lasalle and St. Joes of the first, 2nd, quarter and semis. Then move to Fordham for the final. This way, we can really showcase the conference.

 

[Eight Legger]

the reasoning behind that (I am assuming) is that if a team that would play in the championship game has a positive test they have a week to try to get it resolved? But there is still the very likely possibility that if it does play out like that then a week would not be enough time anyway. I say play the title game the next day or a day after or whatever and if the teams were healthy enough to play in the semifinals then they should be healthy enough to play in the final.

I guess the league assumes there is no way more than 2 A10 teams can make it – whoever wins the tournament, and then the best remaining team. Otherwise, this would be bid suicide, because you're eliminating the possibility for teams like us, SLU and Davidson to run the table and win 5 or 6 more games to enter the at-large discussion. I think only Bona and VCU have that chance now.

 

[spider fan]

Waiting a week to play the championship game in a different venue is nonsensical - Covid or no Covid.

 

[ur2K]

What are they saying is the rationale for this? I cant figure how this makes sense

 

[plydogg]

What are they saying is the rationale for this? I cant figure how this makes sense

I think they’re using the parent logic. “Because I’m in charge and I say so”

 

[ChoppinBroccoli]

What are they saying is the rationale for this? I cant figure how this makes sense

Science!

 

[I-M-UR]

I think they’re using the parent logic. “Because I’m in charge and I say so”

But I ate my vegetables