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Wasn't really in the mood to put this together last night. Hope I'm not missing anybody.

- Andre Weir - Started but only played 15 minutes in an easy win over NAIA Bryan, had 8 points and 5 boards.
- Malcolm Dread - Once again DNP as Mount St. Mary's softened up Bucknell for us with a double OT win.
- BB Washington - DNP in FGCU's loss to Bona. So far this season he has only played the final 24 seconds of their loss to TCU.

Opening Night Lineup - Just for fun

Ok now want to see Hunt, White, either Nesko or Glou, Robinson and Soulis.
GW3 and McGlothin getting a chance. Walz and Beagle earn minutes. May as well try to build for a10 tourney.
Not only build, but this could actually be a better lineup for us by game 1 of A-10 play. I don't think starting Tyne and Tanner with Hunt will ever work. I hope I am wrong, but Tanner looks a lot like Noyes did, and I will leave it at that. Tyne was 1-5 from 3 and at some point we might have to say he is just not a good 3 point guy, and at his size, he really needs to be, especially starting with Hunt.

Charlotte Game (and travel) thread - Wed 11/13 7pm ESPN+

My goodness, taking a jab at people on here who support our coach, our players, and our program? How dare us, right? Geez, where are we? Well, I'm right here. Let me ask where are some of you guys when we have success? The board has way less messages when we win. Way less.

As for the game, I will say what I said after the Marist game. I am way more concerned about our offense than defense. We are gonna have a hard time scoring this year. We were 3-21 from 3 and took way too many mid range 2s last night. Way way too many. Very few guys can create their own shot. Without better 3 point shooting, the defense will continue to make things hard for our bigs and hard for us to get to the basket and draw fouls. I won't get into each player now, but a lot of guys need to play a lot better for us to have success.
I'll get into it.

Guards - Shooting has been awful, defense bad. I don't understand the obsession with White here on the board, he's quick but that's all I've seen so far. Tyne's 3 still looks good and doesn't go in. He's still small. Hunt is not a #1 scorer (or really a PG to me) and his shooting reflects this. GWIII and Graham not in regular rotation. Contrary to some, I do believe that the small guards are an issue if you ONLY have small guards. Getting bullied on drives, other teams guards are lighting it up with clear eye lines on their shots. This is why we are so bad IMO. Moonball demands good guard play and we do not have it. Think of all the end of shot clock possessions where the ball gets reset bc Moonball passing game leads to nothing. The lead guard has to be a creator in those times. I like DLo but he's not at the level of KA, Gilyard or King, not nearly. He's a complementary scorer.

Centers - jumping spots here bc it's an important spot in Moonball. Walz needs an offensive move bc without one he is indecisive in the post. He'd rather shoot a 16 foot jumper IMO. He said he's being counted on to score, but he's not doing it or looking to do it. He's not shown willingness to guard the perimeter effectively. Beagle - he can score around the rim. He also gives up as much/more on defense as he scores and isn't the passer Moon requires from the high post. Turnovers killing him.

Dusan - gets his own line here bc he has been what I thought he'd be. Guy who can score points, maybe inconsistent on defense.

Wings - Roche, nothing new here. Makes shots or doesn't play, depending on how Moon feels. Tanner - looks comfortable shooting 17 foot jumpers, 3s less so, haven't seen ability to get to the rim off the dribble. Liability on defense. AP - better on defense than I'd expect, likely bc he's 6'8" and has been able to tip passes and block shots. Still lateral quickness issues. Nice looking shot, needs better looks and better results.

Graham, Soulis, GWIII - not in rotation

Freshmen - redshirting. Contrary to board, I am behind this now, why waste them if this season is tanking already.
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Opening Night Lineup - Just for fun

Another reality is that Brandon Jennings, St Chris grad, is thriving it would seem at VCU especially defensively. While not starting, playing 20+ min a game partly because Zeb Jackson is injured but clearly a good recruit by them. I could easily see Brandon staying around VCU through graduation given his mother has multiple degrees from VCU etc.

our guy would have coached that defensive tenacity right out of him

Charlotte Game (and travel) thread - Wed 11/13 7pm ESPN+

My goodness, taking a jab at people on here who support our coach, our players, and our program? How dare us, right? Geez, where are we? Well, I'm right here. Let me ask where are some of you guys when we have success? The board has way less messages when we win. Way less.

As for the game, I will say what I said after the Marist game. I am way more concerned about our offense than defense. We are gonna have a hard time scoring this year. We were 3-21 from 3 and took way too many mid range 2s last night. Way way too many. Very few guys can create their own shot. Without better 3 point shooting, the defense will continue to make things hard for our bigs and hard for us to get to the basket and draw fouls. I won't get into each player now, but a lot of guys need to play a lot better for us to have success.

You are shameless. Getting high off your own Mooniocrity supply for so long you don't even know what you are arguing anymore, emboldened by the losses 😏
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Charlotte Game (and travel) thread - Wed 11/13 7pm ESPN+

Never thought offense would be our problem this year - but here we are scoring 48 against a bad Charlotte team. You can expect to have cold shooting nights at some point, but that is when your defense kicks in - and this team looks like it will struggle on defense. Or - when your shooting is struggling, try something different - like go down low or drive to the hoop and try to draw fouls and get to the free throw line. That is what Charlotte did - they were not shooting any better than us - but they drove the ball, caused some fouls to be called - and they shoot 30 free throws to our 13.

Also - I never in my life have complained about offensive rebounding with this team because it is just not part of the Mooney system. BUT - in this game, we missed 30 shots, and only got 2 offensive rebounds. That is unbelievable.

Some things to note from a personnel standpoint. Where are Soullis and GW3. Especially in a game like this, when your just looking for a spark - do you try something different and throw one of them out there, see what you get. Especially at the end of the first half where we went 8 minutes and scored 3 points.
This is what I would like to know. Why no Soulis of GW3 last night? I know we are not at practice so we don't see everything going on, but it's not like we have a solid rotation that has shown how great they are and just had a few bad games here. We have 4 new starters and 3 of our 4 main bench guys are in their 1st year here. When we have a game like last night, where we are struggling so bad offensively, why not give the other guys some minutes. Even the true freshman. If they look like they shouldn't be playing and that's why they aren't, fine, sit them back down, but maybe they can give you a spark somewhere.

Charlotte Game (and travel) thread - Wed 11/13 7pm ESPN+

I'm expecting a new coachspeak phrase to enter all the interviews: cohesion. We have none.

sman, agree on the cutters clogging lanes, multiple times 2 guys would cut at same time and both end up with their defenders in the middle of the lane. I also agree that a few fouls were very weak calls.

I can see why deep bench didn't get in, the game got out of reach in slow increments. It was a 10 point game at 4:30, so of course your starters/guys playing best are still in there. But going forward, no one should be on any zero minutes expectation like in previous years. Go 13 deep if guys in the regular rotation don't perform. What's going to happen - lose to Charlotte by 20?

I really feel badly for Roche now that Moon seems intent on burying him, especially in a game where Tanner didn't score. A ROY honor and his up transfer just didn't ever go as expected.

Did the announcers say that UR hasn't won a road OOC game since 2021? Is that correct?
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The Trump Administration

Ask the US intelligence community what they think. This is an F you to the intelligence community and the American people, but you and Putin are thrilled. Trump could care less about the intelligence community.

Per Abigail Spanberger:

“Not only is [Gabbard] ill-prepared and unqualified, but she traffics in conspiracy theories and cozies up to dictators like Bashar-al Assad and Vladimir Putin,”
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Charlotte Game (and travel) thread - Wed 11/13 7pm ESPN+

It is always amazing how they go into hiding whenever their savior does his 56% percent act. Yet, those of us are here through thick and thin are not "real" fans.

Bucknell is gonna be a lot tougher than anyone thought when the season started and that is not some reflection on Bucknell either; just us.
My goodness, taking a jab at people on here who support our coach, our players, and our program? How dare us, right? Geez, where are we? Well, I'm right here. Let me ask where are some of you guys when we have success? The board has way less messages when we win. Way less.

As for the game, I will say what I said after the Marist game. I am way more concerned about our offense than defense. We are gonna have a hard time scoring this year. We were 3-21 from 3 and took way too many mid range 2s last night. Way way too many. Very few guys can create their own shot. Without better 3 point shooting, the defense will continue to make things hard for our bigs and hard for us to get to the basket and draw fouls. I won't get into each player now, but a lot of guys need to play a lot better for us to have success.

Charlotte Game (and travel) thread - Wed 11/13 7pm ESPN+

Also, in the first half (the only one I watched), I saw several times Beagle on the pick and roll. Beagle was wide open rolling to the basket and they never threw the ball to him! Maybe the second half was different.
I saw quite a bit of that as well - guy was open and we couldn't make the pass. Then guy was not really open and we forced the pass and TO. Hopefully some of that due to just lack of guys playing together and will improve with time.

No where to go but up - I hope.

Kenny Atkinson to the Cavs

OK, I was ready to go in a different direction when Boston College was talking to Mooney, so all the years run into each other. But when we went 10 years in a row with no NCAA it was "All is Well" at Richmond. Believe me, I am used to it and more just amused now. And let's say Mooniocrity retired. Hardt would probably hire his buddy Paulsen wherever he is now. So we will just hope that we can find the secret sauce this year.

Oh and 13-0. Super start for KA!
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OOC Grade is in!!! No surprise, it's an F

So far my worst fears coming through: Last year was an abberation - Mooney had three tough minded athletic/defenders/rebounders in Dji, Bigs, and Harris - which drove the defensive mindset. Which seemed to have been instilled somewhat by Boyden the year before.
Now our team seems to have zero identity - other than Hunt - and he can't do it all. Hunt and King were tough hard nosed defenders last year too - and Quinn used his size well.
It's early, but the interviews and messaging I hear from our fearless mooniocrity scream lack of urgency.

Charlotte Game (and travel) thread - Wed 11/13 7pm ESPN+

Never thought offense would be our problem this year - but here we are scoring 48 against a bad Charlotte team. You can expect to have cold shooting nights at some point, but that is when your defense kicks in - and this team looks like it will struggle on defense. Or - when your shooting is struggling, try something different - like go down low or drive to the hoop and try to draw fouls and get to the free throw line. That is what Charlotte did - they were not shooting any better than us - but they drove the ball, caused some fouls to be called - and they shoot 30 free throws to our 13.

Also - I never in my life have complained about offensive rebounding with this team because it is just not part of the Mooney system. BUT - in this game, we missed 30 shots, and only got 2 offensive rebounds. That is unbelievable.

Some things to note from a personnel standpoint. Where are Soullis and GW3. Especially in a game like this, when your just looking for a spark - do you try something different and throw one of them out there, see what you get. Especially at the end of the first half where we went 8 minutes and scored 3 points.
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Charlotte Game (and travel) thread - Wed 11/13 7pm ESPN+

bright side, I actually thought our defense was fine. or at least it was the least of our problems last night.

offensive "flow" was awful. maybe that does take time? guys we're clogging things up for each other which didn't happen last year.

shooting was just abysmal despite open looks. 3-21 from 3, 5-13 from the line? and we took a bunch of those pull up midrange shots that the analytics hate ... and missed them like the analytics project.

Dusan was impressive early. don't understand him yelling at Walz for passing the ball back to him though ... which went through his hands. Beagle made some nice moves. gotta see the cutters though. that's the whole purpose of him getting the ball on the elbow. be patient there.
Hunt did Hunt things ... except from the foul line.
AP blocked a shot and stayed under control.
that about exhausts any positives. to state the obvious, we're not very good right now.
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Kenny Atkinson to the Cavs

A forward looking AD department would have pursued him when Kyrie and KD fired him or any of the years since. May have had a shot a couple years ago.
No chance. When Brooklyn let him go, it was inevitable he was gonna get another NBA head coaching job. Kenny was locked into the NBA and not going anywhere. Also, we went 24-7 the year Brooklyn let him go. And, you said we should have hired him any year since? I know you like to get on Hardt, but come on, you can't say he should have fired a coach after going 24-7 in 2020, or 2022 when we won the A-10 tourney and a dance game, or last year, when we won the A-10 regular season title. Our roster has issues this year, and we are off to a terrible start, and it seems fine to be frustrated with this year so far, but keep it real here.

Charlotte Game (and travel) thread - Wed 11/13 7pm ESPN+

Advice from a friend who has watched his school's team fail annually-Get the hope over with early. Now we can relax.
I watched the first half on tv then went out. It was a tremendous display of offensive futility by both teams. At least Charlotte could hit foul shots- the difference in the first half. What hurts the most, beyond no offense, is watching our team take a three and start running the other way. There were tons of opportunities to grab an offensive rebound. So depressing to think nothing has changed over all of these years with the Spiders' offensive rebounding strategy-actually- no strategy-just "get back!"

Charlotte Game (and travel) thread - Wed 11/13 7pm ESPN+

It is always amazing how they go into hiding whenever their savior does his 56% percent act. Yet, those of us are here through thick and thin are not "real" fans.

Bucknell is gonna be a lot tougher than anyone thought when the season started and that is not some reflection on Bucknell either; just us.
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