Great work Mojo. Bring on the Pirates.

Anybody spotted anything about Argabright making things official?

brooklyn brownstone said:

did Bryce Schneider transfer out of D1? Seemed like a good guy, remember him posting congrats to the guys he came in with after the NCAA tourney win in 2022.

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Yeah, he headed to D-II Nova Southeastern. Still helps run the Big Shots family business.

GKiller said:

idk think around same time u took offense to my Fax joke & the Bucknell 5-1 deal!

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I did not take offense to that at all, I found it quite funny lol

GKiller said:

do u not think we can expect more out of long term coach in 1 spot...shouldn't there be a benefit such as more regular Ncaa?

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I guess it’s what you consider as “expect more”. When you think of all the coaches who have been in one program for 20 years (or at least a very long time), they’re like coach K, Jim Boheim, Roy Williams, Jay Wright, Tommy Bennett, they’ve all won national championships. Do I expect the same for Mooney because he has been here that long and are my expectations exponential in the sense that I expect NCAA year 1 of Mooney, Sweet 16 year 5, Final Four year 15, and National Championship year 20? No I do not and I’m sure we all can agreed that is not realistic (as much as I would love that). Now, I agree that we should be winning championships/making NCAAs at a more consistent basis and I don’t think a poor performance this season takes away from the accomplishments of the past 5 seasons: notably winning COY and A10 regular season last year. I’m not making an excuse here or saying that I’ll be happy going 8-22 this year and pretend that it’s okay, but I do also recognize that down years happen. We’re only 3 games in the season though and I still want to be optimistic.

GKiller said:

I figured Mooney at year 20 is a better, more experienced coach, better recruiting, more connections for scheduling, all leading to better performance.

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I agree with longer tenure means more experience and more experience (should) lead to better things like scheduling, easier ability to recruit players that fit system, but like I’ve said many times before the college landscape is changing. Scheduling is becoming even harder to do for everybody and while I think UR benefits greatly from the transfer portal era, one downside is that we don’t know how all the individual talent we can get will gel together, even with earlier summer practices. Yes, a more experience coach should ease that transition quickly, but there are a lot of other factors too.

GKiller said:

Yet they will tell us we're 1 of the top basketball programs in the nation! It's like that saying...don't piss on someone's leg and tell them it's raining

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If you don’t like us saying this then fine, totally your right to do so. But in my opinion, I don’t think one can have problem with us not being vocal enough and public with our expectations and standards for ourselves (like many have praised the VCU AD for doing so) and then also having a problem when we make a claim of confidence saying we’re a top team in a country - claiming that it is hyperbolic and out of touch with reality.

did Bryce Schneider transfer out of D1? Seemed like a good guy, remember him posting congrats to the guys he came in with after the NCAA tourney win in 2022.

I really feel for the guys, it is time for change at the top! Why is it that none of our basketball greats are on staff? I have nothing against our assistants, just so you know that!!

50/50 shot at best. Probably less given our historic road struggles!

With you on your first paragraph, but we diverge after that.

Was it not the Biden Admin that leaked the planned Israeli retaliatory targets in Iran? An enormous breach of trust against a US ally. Be hard to top that one.

SpiderGuy said:

Moon might be embarrassed by the schedule, but he should be more embarrassed losing to teams we should be beating. I’ve been supporting the team 50 years, am a season ticket holder, but just truly burnt out by Mooney. It’s beyond time to have moved on. For the first time in 50 years, I turned off the game at halftime. I do hope the fellas get it together, but the buck stops at the top…extensions and rewards be damned. We can and should be better.

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I feel your pain. It got so bad for me that I stopped attending live basketball games. I do watch the TV games but find myself laughing out loud at the predictably of what's about to happen. I'm way over Mooney and Richmond basketball. Football, lacrosse and now baseball along with most women's sports keeps my interest.

GKiller said:

Eh, I think Mooney is even embarassed by this schedule & also the two non d1 games. I said this before, but if you schedule hard and take some lumps some year, who cares. No need for Moon to worry, he's lifetime coach. Better to lose against good national teams than the dregs too. But the biggest thing is you set a precedent u set a culture with schedule. And u get connections for future, maybe u get into a 2 for 1 deal for instance. So if we did do that it's actually hurting u for future when u do have a team that can win.

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Moon might be embarrassed by the schedule, but he should be more embarrassed losing to teams we should be beating. I’ve been supporting the team 50 years, am a season ticket holder, but just truly burnt out by Mooney. It’s beyond time to have moved on. For the first time in 50 years, I turned off the game at halftime. I do hope the fellas get it together, but the buck stops at the top…extensions and rewards be damned. We can and should be better.

The Ethic Committee report on Gaetz is going to be released to ensure complete transparency. The American public has a right to know the truth about this guy.

Does anyone seriously think ANY foreign intelligence service will share info with a US intelligence service led by idiots like Noem and Gabbert? Do you think the Mossad wants info it has gathered being stored in one of Trump's bathrooms, or being shared at parties?

Maybe the Russians, North Korea and Hungary, Trump's buddies.

MDspider8 said:

We went 8-22 in his second season, '06-'07.

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Were they all D1 wins? We could get another one against Florida Tech and that might skew the numbers.

spider23 said:

See, top half is not great in our conference. It's OK. But then again Hardt and PQ and crew have a lot lower expectations for their good buddy and his team.

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That stuck out to me too, so in our coach's 20th year we can maybe hope to surprise some people and finish top half in a 15 team middling conference like it's some big achievement, WOWEE guys bring out the koolaid pitchers I'm thirsty

spiderstudent17 said:

Please correct me if I’m wrong, but when did I say that? I remember having this conversation a few months ago (my mind is a little hazy on exactly what was said) but I remember making a comment that my expectations for Mooney have and always been NCAA appearances whether that is year 1 or year 20. I gave more leeway the beginning years as he implemented his system and also recognized that years we didn’t make NCAAs weren’t automatically a failure.

But to turn it back to now, obviously this is not a good start for us at all. It’s very disappointing because losing these two games have knocked the wind out of our sails for at least the hope of an at-large. But we’re 3 games into the season and there is a lot left to play. I still believe we have the talent on this roster to surprise people and be a top half conference team. However, a lot of work is needed to get there.

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idk think around same time u took offense to my Fax joke & the Bucknell 5-1 deal!

thought u said something about not having any increased expectations for Mooney. which sorta aligns with above. do u not think we can expect more out of long term coach in 1 spot...shouldn't there be a benefit such as more regular Ncaa? If not or if there's barely any it's really just another reason for churn. get the new fresh guy in regularly. I figured Mooney at year 20 is a better, more experienced coach, better recruiting, more connections for scheduling, all leading to better performance. Because I agree coaches have proven to do well year 1. I personally don't think U of R expects to reap those things. They pay him to be a nice face to school, status quo, not get in trouble and win just enough to not create extra work. and for that u will be the highest paid employee at the school.

Yet they will tell us we're 1 of the top basketball programs in the nation! It's like that saying...don't piss on someone's leg and tell them it's raining.

97spiderfan said:

Good points and can't disagree. But, what I think we will now pivot too is if we go .500 this year, he can say, rebuilding year, we still were a .500 team despite the youth/new pieces. And enough people will accept that at face value, without looking into the fact that most of the wins will be Quad 3/4 wins as the result of our OOC and probably beating a few of the other bad teams in the A-10.

Of course, right now, if you lose to Marist at home and then 17 to a very mid Charlotte team, tough to see .500. And as you say, no need for Mooney to worry, he just signed his extension, his check cashes whether we win or lose. He could probably run 2 maybe 3 below .500 seasons off in a row before he begins to feel a tiny bit of pressure. He doesn't even know what pressure is at this point. The admin doesn't give it to him, the fan base doesn't, the media doesn't. All he has to do is show up and punch the clock and he is golden.

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This is what's frustrating. Hell, we extended him when we did not have an AD. Zero pressure to win. Which I don't agree with since you are getting around $1.5 million per year.

spiderstudent17 said:

surprise people and be a top half conference team

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See, top half is not great in our conference. It's OK. But then again Hardt and PQ and crew have a lot lower expectations for their good buddy and his team.

It's Nescovic by a clear margin for me, but he's getting 21m a game bc, well, Moon doesn't know his own rotations or best lineups going into game 4.

Also, for DLo, he hasn't made a 3 against a D1 team and is 10-18 FTs in those games. The reason I think he's a complementary scorer is that I don't think he's readily looking to shoot 3s unless wide open. As a third/fourth option last year (I think we agree King and Quinn were 1-2) he was able to get cleaner looks that he's not getting as someone always with the ball this year.

Attitudes here will change when we beat Auburn.

32counter said:

So was Towson.So was host Campbell.Either game was tight.Campbell and Hampton look like identical twins on paper.

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Hampton carried Rhode Island to OT and then lost by two-points and played Nova to six points.
JMO but you are dead on about how good Hampton is. This will not likely be easy, as shown by last year's result.

I agree DLO is not at that level right now - but I can see him at that level as the season progresses. But where you are spot on - who is that 2nd or even 3rd player he can count on. And usually - that next level is a big guy. King had Quinn. KA had Harper and Geriot. Gilly had Golden, etc. We usually have that combination of elite guard, with a very good big man and I don't see that this year at all once you get past DLO.

Mooney's really good teams are usually defined by having elite guard play. We do not have an elite guard this year. Delonnie is a really nice player but he is not on Jordan King, Gilly, K-Zero, Ced, KA level. Each of those guards scared other teams defenses in ways that Delonnie doesn't.

And that is not a knock on Hunt. He is our best player, he is really good player, it's just Mooney needs an ELITE guard for his teams to be competent. And then couple that by asking the question, who is our second best player after Delonnie and I bet if I asked this board, I would get 3-4 different answers and now our problem is even deeper. We maybe able to be alright with having Hunt as our lead guard IF we had some other player that really scared other teams, but we don't.